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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often does your MBP crash?

I'm not the OP, but my (new) MBP crashes twice a month when surfing or coding (Sublime, Typescript, Node). It crashes daily if I use Parallels and regularly when using Spotify.

I had an issue similar to this that was related to a hardware problem with the GPU. I took it into the apple store and they ended up replacing the logic board.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often does your MBP crash?

I'm not the OP, but my (new) MBP crashes twice a month when surfing or coding (Sublime, Typescript, Node). It crashes daily if I use Parallels and regularly when using Spotify.

I would take it back.

My previous MBP went ~2 years of very heavy use without a single crash, and my 2012 MBA has only crashed once, right after I installed google hangout stuff.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

#23
post #13

I actually read this all the way through... Quality writing.

I'll check it out, but in his past reviews, I've had the impression that the author really likes showing off his background knowledge of all things Apple. A lot of the text is irrelevant to the review, and therefore shouldn't be there. Also, the endless, endless links. He really needs to learn when something should be linked and when it shouldn't -- it really affects the reading experience on the web. You're constant…

The links are rather the points, as is the background info. If that’s not for you that’s great, no problem, but really, you seem to fundamentally misunderstand why people like this.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll check it out, but in his past reviews, I've had the impression that the author really likes showing off his background knowledge of all things Apple. A lot of the text is irrelevant to the review, and therefore shouldn't be there. Also, the endless, endless links. He really needs to learn when something should be linked and when it shouldn't -- it really affects the reading experience on the web. You're constant…

The background knowledge of things Apple is one of the selling points of these reviews. Siracusa writes for people who really want to nerd out on arcana. My impression is that he sees these reviews as documenting Apple design history, and not just "should I upgrade" guides. It's fine not to like it, but it's a weird thing to criticize him for doing.

That's a really good way of putting it; I hadn't thought of it that way before. Fair enough! :)

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

#25
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was experiencing the GPU panics as well and it turned out to be a hardware issue. Did it only happen when you were using the NVidia GPU and not when using the on-board?

I have this issue (MBP early 2011). Is it risky to upgrade to Yosemite? When starting up cold, I sometimes have to force-shutdown the computer 30+ times before it will get past the Apple logo screen without going grey or black. I'm not sure if such a major software update is a good idea given the circumstances.

I had a GPU hardware problem too. When in I upgraded a few years ago to a beta at wwdc, it became quite unstable. Finally got Apple to replace the motherboard. Not sure why an upgrade would cause the problem, though.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

#26
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was experiencing the GPU panics as well and it turned out to be a hardware issue. Did it only happen when you were using the NVidia GPU and not when using the on-board?

I have this issue (MBP early 2011). Is it risky to upgrade to Yosemite? When starting up cold, I sometimes have to force-shutdown the computer 30+ times before it will get past the Apple logo screen without going grey or black. I'm not sure if such a major software update is a good idea given the circumstances.

I had this problem, went to the genius bar and was quickly offered to replace the defective component for free in under a week, if I remember correctly.

It's still much too long to go without a computer, but it's worth it when you realise you've been coding for three hours and haven't lost a single line of code to a crash.

That being said, before I got the part replaced, upgrading to... was it snow leopard? the latest version of OS X, anyway, increased the frequency of the issue by rather a lot. So, possibly, hold off on your update?

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

#27
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was experiencing the GPU panics as well and it turned out to be a hardware issue. Did it only happen when you were using the NVidia GPU and not when using the on-board?

I have this issue (MBP early 2011). Is it risky to upgrade to Yosemite? When starting up cold, I sometimes have to force-shutdown the computer 30+ times before it will get past the Apple logo screen without going grey or black. I'm not sure if such a major software update is a good idea given the circumstances.

This is so common on the early 2011 MBP (I have one too, and experienced it - Apple replaced my logic board with their $300 flat-fee repair depot option) people have made a website for it:

http://www.mbp2011.com/

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/13/apple-remains-mum-...

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

#29
post #9

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

#30
post #2

What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way? Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.

In using the beta, I haven't noticed any actual performance/battery difference between the two. Honestly, when I first installed it the first thing I noticed was the lack of sound when changing the volume.
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