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When Women Become Men at Wellesley

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Re: When Women Become Men at Wellesley

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This is a great article. Tons of questions and not many answers, and that's okay. I'm glad to have places to look for inspiration when trying to celebrate my identity as a man in a way that doesn't marginalize anyone. I haven't found any good answers yet. It's really interesting to see how the student body is balancing their desire to be inclusive with a desire to retain an identity and common experiences.

I also appreciated how the author and editor did a great job of making complicated issues about identity and tense and changing pronouns and changing names very simple and human and readable.

Re: When Women Become Men at Wellesley

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> Of all the people at a multiethnic women’s college who could hold the school’s “diversity” seat, the least fitting one was a white man.

> “I thought he’d do a perfectly fine job, but it just felt inappropriate to have a white man there. It’s not just about that position either. Having men in elected leadership positions undermines the idea of this being a place where women are the leaders.”

I find this concept both depressing and distressing. Any person can be capable, willing, and qualified to take on a role promoting diversity. Their gender, sex, race, or whatever else should not disqualify them and should hardly be a factor. I guess this shows that prejudice is unfortunately still common in modern society. Discriminating against e.g. white men in such a role is just as abhorrent to me as discriminating against any other groups in other circumstances.

Certainly it's their right not to vote for him, but if the basis of their vote is simply his membership in some group, rather than his character or qualifications, then that's prejudice. It's sad and it needs to stop.

We need to cease over-correcting for past discriminating by propagating new discrimination and prejudice into the modern day.

> I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Let's put discrimination to rest by selecting people for roles based on what we know about them as individuals: their capability, qualifications, and character. [Edit: minor rephrasing and added content.]

Re: When Women Become Men at Wellesley

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I know two people who "become women" to get better treatment at university. Dance around it as you wish, but today women has 60% higher chance to graduate compared to men.

You know two men who became trans for better treatment? Considering the issues trans people face you are full of shit.

Interesting how accounts trying to claim that 'women have it so much better' are always green accounts. If you believe in your comment why not use your actual handle?

Why do you think women have a better chance? What can you do to help men?

Re: When Women Become Men at Wellesley

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post #5

> Of all the people at a multiethnic women’s college who could hold the school’s “diversity” seat, the least fitting one was a white man. > “I thought he’d do a perfectly fine job, but it just felt inappropriate to have a white man there. It’s not just about that position either. Having men in elected leadership positions undermines the idea of this being a place where women are the leaders.” I find this concept both…

I find that concept really depressing.

You're not the only one. Apparently even at what should be an enlightened women's college, sexism (and racism) is alive and well.

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I know two people who "become women" to get better treatment at university. Dance around it as you wish, but today women has 60% higher chance to graduate compared to men.

When I think of people who have it made in modern day America, "trans women" are right up there at the top.

Re: When Women Become Men at Wellesley

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I know two people who "become women" to get better treatment at university. Dance around it as you wish, but today women has 60% higher chance to graduate compared to men.

Did it work? Just because somebody becomes trans doesn't mean they actually get comparable social treatment to a cis woman in practice.

Re: When Women Become Men at Wellesley

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I know two people who "become women" to get better treatment at university. Dance around it as you wish, but today women has 60% higher chance to graduate compared to men.

You know two men who became trans for better treatment? Considering the issues trans people face you are full of shit. Interesting how accounts trying to claim that 'women have it so much better' are always green accounts. If you believe in your comment why not use your actual handle? Why do you think women have a better chance? What can you do to help men?

Take typical nerd, add mild depression and zero social life. I can ensure you that being trans will not make it much worse and will improve relations with authorities significantly. And in their cases it was 'administrative decision'.

I argued a few times in person, results were unpleasant for my person, I am not going to do it again.

65% graduates are women, men do not even have universal voting right in US. Google is your friend.

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