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Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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These days isn't receiving death threats on the internet kind of par for the course? How many internet death threats have actually resulted in deaths? I think the answer is zero. Why even pay them any attention?

It would come down to who wants to be the first. Also the people making these death threats are not in a sane state of mind from the start, judging from the published samples.

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but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement - I would liken them more to the vandals that presented themselves during Occupy Wall Street. I hang around the organizing points for the GamerGate stuff - people are remarkably level headed and respectful (and absolutely NOT driven by misogyny). There is no organized harassment happe…

There absolutely is organised harrasment, it's organised on an IRC channel: http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/09/08/zoe-quinns-screensh... The well is not only poisoned by its originators but entirely made from poison. The whole original premise about corruption of games journalism is absurd; if that's what they were going after, it would look entirely different, because it's mostly a big-business phenomenon rather…

There absolutely were death threats in the months leading to the Scottish referendum. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/463823/SCOTLAND-AT-WAR-Deat...

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A death threat doesn't become less real by not being followed through it, otherwise it'd be called murder, not death threat.

I mean I very doubt they are real, she has been shown time and again to be a liar.

Do you have a source or owt for that? You can't just drop something like that without any evidence.

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post #171

These days isn't receiving death threats on the internet kind of par for the course? How many internet death threats have actually resulted in deaths? I think the answer is zero. Why even pay them any attention?

It would come down to who wants to be the first. Also the people making these death threats are not in a sane state of mind from the start, judging from the published samples.

People can just be assholes without also having mental illness.

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no, they are not. She is cherry picking examples, sometimes twisting the truth so it fits her agenda. See the Hitman example where she portrays violence against women as integral part of the game while you are in fact punished by the game for doing so. She also never properly cites research (please point me that is not true). If her videos were well researched and fair, maybe there would have never such a shitstorm.

> maybe there would have never such a shitstorm. Nice. All this is totally her fault then.

Nice cherry you picked there. If you would leave a meaningful comment, I would be happy to talk.

I stand by my words. Her videos are full of lies. They are on a Columbine or Jack Thomson level of "objectivity". Someone please prove me wrong about Hitman otherwise.

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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using a throwaway account because ppl could easily find my twitter, my company, and harass me all day about this (and probably would). GamerGate is very probably a hate group, with no other legitimate purpose. they're known to send people into forums like this to argue politely and coherently that the "movement" is 100% legitimate. typically the person who comes onto a site like this, to argue in that manner, also ma…

Yep, because the SJW feminists don't hate men...

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Never heard of her before. Why is she so famous to elicit such an extreme reaction ?

Articles have appeared on the front page before, but they keep getting flagged off. Which to me is a sad commentary on the Hacker News community. I'd provide a link but HN's search engine doesn't include articles marked [Dead] .

Yep, and that's where this thread went.

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oh, what a fruitful discussion this might trigger.. What I don't get is how they constantly counter-act the common rules on how to deal with trolls or stalkers. It really feels like they are bathing in the outrage, not interested in actually solving it. And that's one reason why I sadly don't feel any sympathy but rather understand the vocal (non socio-/psychopath) critics. There is no fair discussion so I wish the m…

Funny how the default male response to a women's problem is almost always, "I will tell you a better way to handle this." Almost a cliché at this point.

Im sorry but that's just wrong. Let's change "default male position" and "almost always" to "feels like it after scrolling though this thread". I also think you confuse offering a second opinion with making an absolute statement. So "I will tell you a better way to handle this" becomes "I think this is a better way to handle this". Sound a lot better, doesn't it?

I don't want to put words in your mouth but I also think you're implying that the male in your example believes his way is better because he's a man and therefore smarter and all that nonsense. That's just unfair. The irony in phrasing it like that given the context is quite obvious though.

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This is what happens when you extinguish a region's gun culture, as NY/NYC has done starting in 1911. You have "leaders" who both hate and don't understand guns and their use, outfit their men with poor tools (the infamous New York Trigger), and and those men's only experience with guns is very very limited training. Turns out citizens legally carrying concealed have a much better record. Given how anti-gun the MSM i…

I'm sorry, but that's total nonsense. A much better record of what? Citizens legally carrying concealed weapons are rarely called upon to fire weapons in stressful situations with dozens of bystanders, so they only have a "better record" of doing so by virtue of having no record at all. "Gun culture" has absolutely nothing to do with trained police officers. New NYPD recruits go through 13 days of firearm training, a…

Afraid the RAND institute disagrees with you WRT NYC, e.g. http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG717.html

Look, NYC is infamous about cops handling their weapons poorly. I thought everyone who pays attention to current events knew this, but I guess I was wrong.

As for your claim that we never face these stressful situations, that's flatly false. Guns are used ~ 2 million times a year to stop crimes (probably more now, those figures are some years old), and there are a number of active shooters who've been stopped by citizen concealed carriers.

But you of course wouldn't know of them because the national MSM for some inexplicable reason doesn't report these incidents. If your Google Fu is up to snuff you can find them. Try including "mall" and "church" for starters

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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I don't understand these people that hate her so much, even if you disagree with her. All she has done is create a series of videos pointing out what she thinks is wrong with the gaming industry and she gets death threats. Why is no one allowed to be critical of video games? If anything, they are just proving her point by responding with violence.

Perhaps the reason for your confusion is because there has never actually been a response with violence against her?
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