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Experiment: No Comment Scores

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Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#131

I think you can remove the word "by"

"10 points by ivankirigin" is actually quite misleading. It looks like "ivankirign" gave the comment 10 points. We are having the same problem on how to show it correctly on GraffitiGeo. We ended up using "by ivinkirigin, points: 10", which in my opinion is still not perfect. Any idea on this?

Why not just "ivinkirigin, 10 points" or something. I think it's fairly obvious that the first word is a username.

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#133
post #97

But now I cant quickly skim off information from a thread. There are 87 comments in this thread at this moment. I am not interested in reading 87 comments about this experiment. I am however very much interested in seeing what the top few most insightful comments in this thread are. That feedback is very important. Right now I am feeling blind as a bat...

We could always make a compromise where people who choose to moderate can't see scores. It would be trivial to circumvent but it will deter 90% of people, and here that's 90% as good as deterring 100%.

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#134
How about having the scores show up after a week (or X amount of time). Practically nobody votes on week-old posts, but I often use -- for example -- searchyc.com's average points per post to get a feel for a user's contributions.

That would balance the elimination of mob voting with being able to ascertain (historical) credibility.

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#135
post #40

Wow, this interferes with key elements of my system for voting/commenting on HN. Here are some things that don't work now: * If a comment is sitting at 1 or 0, I'll try to avoid downvoting it unless I really think the comment subtracts value from the site. * If a child is attracting more votes than the parent, and I think this is because the child commenter didn't comprehend what the parent was saying, I vote to leve…

It's interesting - I manfully tried for a bit, but my interest in voting seems to have evaporated with the numbers. Like tc, I often vote to "balance out" as much as to "join the mob".

My prediction: comment voting will drop precipitously.

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#136
Just as an alternative idea - why not colour the score to the background colour - that way it is effectively invisible, yet can still be seen by highlighting the heading.

Although that being said, I tend to gloss over the scores anyway for the most part...

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#137
post #19

PG: Will you be applying some metric to determine if this improves site feel? If so, what metric?

I think the two obvious metrics are volume of comment votes and average comment score. I don't know which way you would want those two to go though.

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#138
post #127
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fact I will go as far as to say that the ideal interface would be one that let me specify what the ideal score of every comment should be and my vote should be counted as an upvote if its below that value and a downvote if its above that...

That would be a star rating system then. Supposedly they work worse.

No, star rating systems generally average. The GP's proposal is not the same.

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#139
post #98
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voting patterns showed a lot of users voted to get a comment to what they felt was an appropriate score: they wouldn't up- or downvote something unless they felt its current score was too low or high respectively. But if comment scores aren't displayed, you won't need to anymore.

In fact I will go as far as to say that the ideal interface would be one that let me specify what the ideal score of every comment should be and my vote should be counted as an upvote if its below that value and a downvote if its above that...

Yes I've had this idea before too. I also think that the votes should be applied to the score in reverse order of the time at which they were made. This means that those who vote earlier end up having more effect on the final score, rather than none at all, as would be the case otherwise.

Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores

#140
post #137
post #19

PG: Will you be applying some metric to determine if this improves site feel? If so, what metric?

I think the two obvious metrics are volume of comment votes and average comment score. I don't know which way you would want those two to go though.

If the standard deviation in comment scores decreases, that indicates more people are voting in disagreement with the majority, which is probably the intended purpose.

I believe pg has in the past just used "this seems better/worse" as a metric, but it's hard to say how noticeable any change from this will be.

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