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Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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What's the difference between Android with a web browser and a Firefox OS phone? Literally nothing. And people ignored WebOS when it was released in favor of Android, even though WebOS used HTML and Javascript for apps and was so hackable you could load a new kernel over USB, and Palm themselves gave you directions how on their official website.

Well, Android Apps run on Dalvik/ART, which is not HTML5/js but I agree, it's not a real difference, except in FirefoxOS marketing strategy, targetting ultra low end devices with heavy (heavier than ART) apps will result in an absurdly unusable system.

Well what I was trying to say is, Firefox OS apps are just web pages. Saying that an Android user is locked into the Play store unlike a Firefox OS user seems silly, because you don't need a single Android app installed to mimic the functionality of Firefox OS. All you need is the browser.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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Firefox OS has a huge advantage when running on low-memory phones. The most memory intensive thing typically run on a low-end phone is the web browser. (Or an app that wraps a browser, like Facebook). So the ability to run a web browser is the limiting factor. Every other OS has to have enough memory to run a GUI + a browser. Since Firefox OS uses the browser for its GUI, it theoretically can run smoother in 128MB or…

Ever heard of Series30, Series40 and Symbian mobiles? Native apps + browser, best of both worlds.

i agree. I bought one of these (Intex) instead Nokia 109 and i regret the decision now. The phone is useless even for basic phone purpose. But hey i am now using twitter device. The battery come for about 4 hours with nay app running.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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I am SO excited about the possibilities Firefox OS provides. I do realize it's in early stages now, and there are many hurdles for the Mozilla team to overcome for it to become a real player in the market, but I'm crossing my fingers. Specifically, I can't wait to see what local developers in developing countries create to improve the lives of people within their communities and societies. With the barrier to entry l…

Really well put, thanks for sharing.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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Nope. It's actually $33, also in developing countries nobody pays more than $0.01 for a phone on contract.

I'm from a developed country and I don't know anyone who pays for a phone on top of the contract price. It baffles me how in US people get a $50/month contract + they have to pay $200 for the phone. Crazy.

Huh? What country are you from then? Every country I know a bit about in this regards (which covers a sizable part of Europe) has 'get a cheaper contract but still get a more expensive phone by paying up front for a part of it' options.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #35

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Firefox OS has a huge advantage when running on low-memory phones. The most memory intensive thing typically run on a low-end phone is the web browser. (Or an app that wraps a browser, like Facebook). So the ability to run a web browser is the limiting factor. Every other OS has to have enough memory to run a GUI + a browser. Since Firefox OS uses the browser for its GUI, it theoretically can run smoother in 128MB or…

That doesn't seem to be the case at all according to the ArsTechnica review: 128MB cripples the phone to the point of near-useless. The original iPhone had 128MB RAM.

The native apps on the original iPhone were incredible. The browser, not so much. Worlds better than the competition from 2007, but in 2014 you would certainly notice the extremely slow Javascript interpreter, the missing HTML5 capabilities, the missing phone API's, and the inability to hold more than one web page in memory simultaneously.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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There was a review the other day at http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/testing-a-35-firefox-... (I think this was from HN). I was interested to see how they defined "growth" in revenue figures. It's disappointing to see that they're only stating launches, rather than sales and return figures, and calling that growth. But perhaps it's too early to get real figures right now.

>It's disappointing to see that they're only stating launches, rather than sales and return figures, and calling that growth. Seeing as this is HN, and part of the start up community. I think you've falling out of touch with the modern techno-economical world ;P /s

Well, it's out of touch with the techno-channel-stuffing world, but some companies aren't in that. After all, Apple is, despite being gigantic, pretty much worshipped by the startup community, and it is very conservative with its figures.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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What the fuck? the price of the article is '$25', and all the links they give show a 80€ => $100 tag price... http://www.materiel.net/smartphone/?f[11037]=Firefox+OS http://www.cdiscount.com/telephonie/telephone-mobile/zte-ope... http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Telephonie/Smartphone/Smartphone... http://www.webdistrib.com/cat/Smartphone-ZTE-Open-C-Night-Bl... http://www.ldlc.com/telephonie-gps/telephonie-portable/mobil..…

http://www.snapdeal.com/product/intex-cloud-fx/1356760619 and http://www.flipkart.com/alcatel-onetouch-firec-4020d/p/itmdy...

Its Rs 1999 (Roughly $32)

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #45

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I'm from a developed country and I don't know anyone who pays for a phone on top of the contract price. It baffles me how in US people get a $50/month contract + they have to pay $200 for the phone. Crazy.

Huh? What country are you from then? Every country I know a bit about in this regards (which covers a sizable part of Europe) has 'get a cheaper contract but still get a more expensive phone by paying up front for a part of it' options.

Alright, I wasn't entirely clear - yes, you can get a cheaper contract and pay a bit upfront for the phone - but I don't know literally anyone who does that. At least in the UK since you can get pretty much any phone model for 30-35 pounds a month people just do that rather than get a 20 pounds/month contract and pay anything upfront for the phone.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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There was a review the other day at http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/testing-a-35-firefox-... (I think this was from HN). I was interested to see how they defined "growth" in revenue figures. It's disappointing to see that they're only stating launches, rather than sales and return figures, and calling that growth. But perhaps it's too early to get real figures right now.

I have AOTF with 256MB RAM and I'm not surprised that Cloud FX performance is a disaster.
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