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Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #7

Personnally, I would also love to have a second phone like this one. Cheap, simple, just to "phone&browse". No apps. I live in France

Not to be rude, but what stops you from buying an old android phone/iphone 3GS/any older windows phone? I can almost guarantee that they will be faster for browsing than any of these new ultra-cheap Firefox OS running phones.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

#12
No actual numbers of users, BUT the number of OEMs, distribution deals, carriers, and regions is impressive. Gaining distribution for handsets can be very complex. If they have managed to figure out how to do this quickly, they've really got something.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

#13
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably the price with contract (i.e., it's subsidized by the carrier and the true cost is higher)

Nope. It's actually $33, also in developing countries nobody pays more than $0.01 for a phone on contract.

I'm from a developed country and I don't know anyone who pays for a phone on top of the contract price. It baffles me how in US people get a $50/month contract + they have to pay $200 for the phone. Crazy.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #7

Personnally, I would also love to have a second phone like this one. Cheap, simple, just to "phone&browse". No apps. I live in France

I purchased a developer Peak when they first came out. I used it as my primary phone for about a month on two different occasions when I was between phones.

In theory it was nice to just have a basic, but in practice I had to tether it to my computer or Nexus 7 for anything more than a quick text or Facebook message. The OS isn't there yet (though 2.0 is getting there) and the touchscreen is a thing that constantly needed to be fought against.

What I found I was really longing for was a small dumbphone that had LTE so I could tether when I needed to get work done/browse the web

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #5

At this point, I think Mozilla really needs to: 1) launch a high end phone, capable of competing in specs with the Nexus 5 and the like; 2) release the first Firefox-OS tablet, which would be a prove very valuable to kiosks.

What is the advantage of releasing a high-end phone? They've made a sensible strategic choice to target a low-end market -- probably the place where firefox-os has the best chance of competing with Android. Trying to have a high-end flagship would dilute their branding and divert their dev efforts.

> What is the advantage of releasing a high-end phone?

Developers use high end phones.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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What the fuck? the price of the article is '$25', and all the links they give show a 80€ => $100 tag price...

http://www.materiel.net/smartphone/?f[11037]=Firefox+OS

http://www.cdiscount.com/telephonie/telephone-mobile/zte-ope...

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Telephonie/Smartphone/Smartphone...

http://www.webdistrib.com/cat/Smartphone-ZTE-Open-C-Night-Bl...

http://www.ldlc.com/telephonie-gps/telephonie-portable/mobil...

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #5

At this point, I think Mozilla really needs to: 1) launch a high end phone, capable of competing in specs with the Nexus 5 and the like; 2) release the first Firefox-OS tablet, which would be a prove very valuable to kiosks.

FxOS tablets already exist [1]. The Flame and ZTE Open C are higher end devices than the device talked about in the OP. Not quite Nexus 5 level (more Nexus S I think?) but are mid-range.

I'd like to see more pushing the envelope of what HTML applications on mobile devices are capable of. Currently devices use the Facebook, Mobile and YouTube mobile sites. These don't make great use of HTML APIs. There is little in the way of offline support for example.

I'd like to see developers, or Mozilla, provide versions of these applications that are equivalent to native. I don't think there is much missing in the web platform to make this difficult.

[1] http://benjaminkerensa.com/2014/05/02/unboxing-first-firefox...

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

#18
Measuring whether or not a device is gaining market share is tricky. I remember iphone launching and weeks later, every website with substantial traffic had a noticeable number of visits from an iphone. Same with ipad.

At the start, there were more nokia n95s, blackberry's and other pre-iphone smartphones in the market. There were even more being sold as iphones were supply limited. But, none of these mattered because if you looked at it from a website's perspective, there were no visits. Sales don't matter.

There's something similar with ChromeOS. People like buying them and maybe owning them. They're cheap and novel and the idea is appealing. But, how many visits to your site come from a chromebook? Usually it's below the attention threshold.

I wonder if Firefox OS will be similar. IE, people could buy a $25 phone on a lark, to house a rarely used SIM or similar but not use it as their primary phone.

This isn't a problem exactly, but it might make it hard to gauge how important the platform is at any given time.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #5

At this point, I think Mozilla really needs to: 1) launch a high end phone, capable of competing in specs with the Nexus 5 and the like; 2) release the first Firefox-OS tablet, which would be a prove very valuable to kiosks.

Firefox OS has a huge advantage when running on low-memory phones. The most memory intensive thing typically run on a low-end phone is the web browser. (Or an app that wraps a browser, like Facebook). So the ability to run a web browser is the limiting factor. Every other OS has to have enough memory to run a GUI + a browser. Since Firefox OS uses the browser for its GUI, it theoretically can run smoother in 128MB or 256MB of RAM than any mainstream smartphone OS. IMO, Firefox should concentrate on the areas where it's intrinsic advantages lie.

Re: Firefox OS Shows Continued Global Growth

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post #18

Measuring whether or not a device is gaining market share is tricky. I remember iphone launching and weeks later, every website with substantial traffic had a noticeable number of visits from an iphone. Same with ipad. At the start, there were more nokia n95s, blackberry's and other pre-iphone smartphones in the market. There were even more being sold as iphones were supply limited. But, none of these mattered becaus…

Just be sure to not mistake audience to your site with general worlds population.
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