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Show HN: HTML5 online animation editor that exports to SVG and SMIL

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Re: Show HN: HTML5 online animation editor that exports to SVG and SMIL

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Post by skavish »

mattdesl wrote: post #30

This looks great. I've also been exploring path rendering and timeline playback in the browser, see here: http://mattdesl.github.io/path-illustrator/demo/advanced.htm... (path rendering) https://github.com/mattdesl/keytime (generic timeline) IMHO the best thing for these tools to do is give more control to the developer. Things like JSON export, custom plugins, etc. This way we can use the timeline and UI tools to dr…

wow, I really like your demos! especially the timeline based. really cool and inspiring.

anyway you are right about giving more control to developers, we are working on that.

Re: Show HN: HTML5 online animation editor that exports to SVG and SMIL

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Post by andrewstuart2 »

Franciscouzo wrote: post #27
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #22

I've always viewed "first ever" or "best ever" or really any superlative claim with huge prejudice. As in, that's quite a claim to be making without providing evidence. On the plus side, I couldn't find that claim anywhere on the site. My point and suggestion being, try to avoid making claims like that if you can't or don't support them. Perhaps I'm a rare pragmatic fuddy-duddy, but pure marketing hype really turns m…

How could they prove that they're the first? That implies they could prove the non-existence of something.

That's definitely a good point, but my personal reaction in that case would be to not make that claim. Such claims feel insincere to me and I'd rather hear "an excellent tool for creating animations and exporting them to SVG and SMIL" or something similar. I'm not saying I'm a marketing guru by any means, though. Just trying to give my honest feedback as one of the target audience.

Re: Show HN: HTML5 online animation editor that exports to SVG and SMIL

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Post by carizan »

Pistos2 wrote: post #33

To site author(s): Just FYI, the landing page is blank until you accept cookies.

Yes, we do need cookies enabled to display the page properly - we're putting a notification message there so at least there will be some explanation for visitors who see nothing but a blank screen initially, it's definitely disconcerting otherwise.

Re: Show HN: HTML5 online animation editor that exports to SVG and SMIL

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Post by andrewstuart2 »

skavish wrote: post #24
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #22

I've always viewed "first ever" or "best ever" or really any superlative claim with huge prejudice. As in, that's quite a claim to be making without providing evidence. On the plus side, I couldn't find that claim anywhere on the site. My point and suggestion being, try to avoid making claims like that if you can't or don't support them. Perhaps I'm a rare pragmatic fuddy-duddy, but pure marketing hype really turns m…

(cofounder here) after we implemented svg+smil export I was searching for some tool which does it as well, but could not find anything. i am not saying it does not exist, but we just could not find it. if you know it please let us know, we will stop claiming it :)

As I just mentioned below [1], I'm just trying to give my feedback on the title and the fact that it (along with most superlatives) feels insincere to me when other great marketing points are available. It also doesn't tell me the things I'd like to hear, such as the feature set or some defining characteristic/feature, aside from "first to market."

I'd actually take the opinion that it's a high-risk low-reward claim to make. Either you're wrong, and your audience will know, or you're right. If you're the first, though, most people in a given target audience probably would have noticed without it being mentioned. Heck, if you're not the first but they haven't heard of another, they might assume you were first and not even think to look into the claim (thus discovering alternative products).

If I'm way off base (or if not), feel free to disregard my comments. As always, though, I like learning why I'm wrong when I am.

Also, rereading my initial comment, I may have come across as more hostile than I meant to. "Huge prejudice" should probably read "skepticism".

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8428619

Re: Show HN: HTML5 online animation editor that exports to SVG and SMIL

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Post by anon4 »

Woah. These run almost as fast as Macromedia used to run on a Pentium 1! Maybe just 20 more years and browsers will finally catch up to 1995 technology.

In all seriousness, it really is too slow - the landing page animations play in about 2fps and the editor itself needs half a second to light up a button when I hover it. I'm running firefox 32.0.1 on Linux with integrated intel video, if it matters. Sadly your time might be better spent improving firefox/chromium so that the next generation will have a platform on which to implement your idea.

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