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How Hong Kong Protesters Are Connecting, Without Cell or Wi-Fi Networks

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Re: How Hong Kong Protesters Are Connecting, Without Cell or Wi-Fi Networks

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Post by koyote »

xnull2guest wrote: post #65
tszming wrote: post #38

Used firechat in the area yesterday, I think there are two issues: 1. information overload, hard to catch up the messages from all the people 2. some people are spreading rumors and fake information. It would be great if we still can use the underlying network but have a way to filter out information (e.g. mgs from friends or friends or friends only)

2. some people are spreading rumors and fake information. Yeah that would be government purposefully trying to sabotage the protests.

Or trolls being trolls.

Re: How Hong Kong Protesters Are Connecting, Without Cell or Wi-Fi Networks

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Post by vog »

I find it interesting that here in Berlin (and other cities in Europe, mostly in Germany), we have this for many years - not just for protesters, but for anyone. However, it's not a smartphone app (the network predates smartphones), but a mesh network of WLAN access points. The name of this project is Freifunk: http://freifunk.net/en/

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Post by erikb »

vog wrote: post #73

I find it interesting that here in Berlin (and other cities in Europe, mostly in Germany), we have this for many years - not just for protesters, but for anyone. However, it's not a smartphone app (the network predates smartphones), but a mesh network of WLAN access points. The name of this project is Freifunk: http://freifunk.net/en/

I live in Berlin since 8 years but never heard about it. Thanks!

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Post by spacefight »

Zirro wrote: post #3

If the authorities sought to disrupt these networks, would it not be possible to jam Bluetooth (and Wi-Fi) signals within a certain area?

I'm 100% sure they will. It's just a learning process on the gov side, kicked of by recent events.

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Post by monort »

Moru wrote: post #61
ck2 wrote: post #19

By the way, check out the sheer size of the protests via drone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ7r8qi3NIY Near the middle they fly higher and zoom out and what you thought was large before turns out to be massive.

And then you watch the news reports daytime and realize what you thought was massive during night was pretty small after all.

Your statement seems to be incorrect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q919bQOThvM

Re: How Hong Kong Protesters Are Connecting, Without Cell or Wi-Fi Networks

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Post by e12e »

ydevnow wrote: post #64
Mikeb85 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defending your territory? From what, the people who already live there? The operations in the east were essentially punitive, simply because they didn't support the new government. Yanukovych never sent the army after the protesters, yet the new Kyiv government did... I don't know if you remember the sequence of events, but Donetsk never separated and formed an army until after the massive escalation of violence by t…

Incompetence is not with the Ukrainian army (maybe lack of finance is). The facts are there: Russia is invading Ukraine. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/29... If you still think there aren't any Russian soldiers, in Ukraine, there is a label for that: a troll. Russian soldiers have been killed, interviewed, captured, and shipped back to Russia (not in that particular order, of course) http:/…

Yes, there are Russian soldiers unofficially in Ukraine. There are US soldiers there too: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/22/pentagon-tea...

Doesn't mean the US has invaded Ukraine.

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