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Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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I have a friend with pretty big health problems (gout and other problems). I don't know if it is because of gout or any other disease, but he says he shouldn't drink acidic drinks. He cut Coca Cola and is drinking now Red Bull Cola. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Cola I don't like Red Bull Cola and think it is a pretty poor substitute - but he enjoys it.

What's wrong with water?

Exactly!

When I was a kid in the 1970s we had pop on Friday nights a 750ml bottle and a large bag of potato chips shared between my family of four.

Now you see people who drink pop for every meal and for a snack between meals and a huge drink at that 750ml or even a liter for one person is normal. People complain about HFCS and acid, weight gain as if their human rights were being violated! Well excuse me for pointing out the elephant in the room people but stop drinking so much pop! It's a dessert like cake or a candy bar it's not a substitute for water.

In my province for many years cans were banned and all pop came in 355ml bottles, sure you could buy a 750ml but it was a big heavy glass bottle. There weren't any big 2 liter bottles and nothing larger than 355ml for single-serve size. Then one day the ban was lifted and cans were allowed but cans were not put in the pop machine 600ml single-serve plastic bottles were. At first people couldn't drink it all and the break room fridge was full of 1/2 filled bottles of pop, then slowly people learned to drink a full 600ml bottle in one sitting.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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> The number of individual nations that could produce a can of Coke is zero. While this is true in that no individual nation could produce Coke with the exact same formula, an individual nation could surely produce a soft drink.

But not too many of those countries also have bauxite mines, coca plants and kola nuts.

Ehhh.

The globalization is more about economics and cost minimization than capability. The Australian bauxite mines are the richest and cheapest mines to operate, which makes other sources of aluminum not worth exploiting, but aluminum is still the third most common element on Earth. The plant ingredients could presumably be grown -- albeit far more expensively and perhaps not in large enough quality for full-scale production -- in greenhouses or under grow lights anywhere.

So it's not so much that many nations couldn't produce a can of Coke by themselves as it doesn't make economic sense for them to produce a can of Coke by themselves when the raw ingredients can be had much more cheaply as an import.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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This is borderline insane. Pure sugar results in huge swings of actual blood sugar levels. Coke has zero fat, protein or complex carbohydrates all of which are much better macronutrients than pure sugar. If Coke is your only option, sure, but I've never seen a doughnut so terrible that I'd take a coke instead.

Let me get this straight: you're advocating commercial dough deep fried in corn or soy oil over some sugar? You have no idea what you're talking about. Sugar does not produce major swings in blood sugar levels unless you're diabetic. Have a working pancreas? Good, then sugars are a perfectly healthy source of calories which your system will merrily mop up into glycogen. Anyway, starch produces a larger insulin respon…

> Personally I daily have about 12 tsp of sugar (in coffee) and a coke. I'm shredded, btw.

That's what I was like too, before I turned 25. That's just how it goes, independent of your diet (within reason).

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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I wish Coca Cola would make a acid free version of coke. The Phosphoric Acid adds a slight tang to the drink, but in exchange absolutely destroys your teeth over years of consumption. For regular drinkers like myself I'd happily pay a small premium to buy the "acid free" version of the drink. The sugar still does damage but with both the acid AND sugar it is like a double whammy of "badness" (acid which destroys your…

Impossible. Plain old carbonated water is acidic.

This is an important issue as well

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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post #128

I wish Coca Cola would make a acid free version of coke. The Phosphoric Acid adds a slight tang to the drink, but in exchange absolutely destroys your teeth over years of consumption. For regular drinkers like myself I'd happily pay a small premium to buy the "acid free" version of the drink. The sugar still does damage but with both the acid AND sugar it is like a double whammy of "badness" (acid which destroys your…

I have a friend with pretty big health problems (gout and other problems). I don't know if it is because of gout or any other disease, but he says he shouldn't drink acidic drinks. He cut Coca Cola and is drinking now Red Bull Cola. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Cola I don't like Red Bull Cola and think it is a pretty poor substitute - but he enjoys it.

I think replacing one soft-drink with another similar won't solve many things.

Unless there's a specific component in Coke that increases Uric Acid (the cause of gout)

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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> ... the inside of the can is painted too — with a complex chemical called a comestible polymeric coating that prevents any of the aluminum getting into the soda.

I though this was very interesting, so I did a little digging... There is remarkably little information on these 'comestible polymeric coatings', but I was able to find (see below) a reason as to why that is. Apparently these coatings are propriety to the manufacturer and there are competing companies who are constantly in a race to find the best coating.

It's supremely interesting the fact that drinking a can of coke is almost a magic trick right in front of your eyes. It'd be like someone holding a lighter straight to a piece of paper and everyone being baffled as to why it isn't lighting on fire. Yet when someone drinks a coke no one bats an eye as to how it isn't mixing with the metal salts and eating straight through the aluminum can.

"Interior can coatings designed to prevent migration of metal salts into the contained product are called "comestible polymeric coatings". The coatings ars polymers typically used in coil coating. The exact nature of the coatings isn't available since most are proprietary to manufacturers who continuously look for better coatings."

source: http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=258261

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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Edit: a side effect of such union power is that Uruguay has the most expensive Coca-Cola in the world, a 2 liter bottle costs 3.5 dollars after taxes (so almost twice what it costs in the U.S.) Does that reduce consumption to the point that there are noticeable population-wide health benefits?

A 2 liter doesn't cost $1.25 here, a 20 ounce does. I can't recall what a 2 liter costs because I don't buy them but over $2 for sure.

Hmmm, they were way cheaper in Toronto last time I was there, not sure about U.S. prices but they should be even cheaper.

Instacart shows them at U$ 1.99 for San Francisco. Ironically the 20 ounce ones are the same price.

Edit: https://www.instacart.com/store/items/98541

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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> The number of individuals who know how to make a can of Coke is zero. This reminds me a fact I remember time to time. If civilization collapses after, say, a world war, I most probably can't make a pot, can't grow plants, can't differentiate if one is edible or not, can't dig for petrol, can't make plastic (or even glass), can't reinvent concrete, can't make gunpowder etc., you get the point. I can only write softw…

Re: the edibility of plants. For this, you can substitute experience and knowledge for a simple algorithm, the universal edibility test. You can read about it here: http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?166...

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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Medicinal use clarification--an official from Mallinckrodt who "asked not to be named" had this to say: "We purchase a crude extract and purify it further into one chemical form, cocaine hydrochloride U.S.P." http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/01/business/how-coca-cola-obt... I looked that up because I don't work in health care: "Cocaine Hydrochloride is used topically to produce local anesthesia of accessible mucous mem…

Cocaine is a local anaesthetic that also restricts blood flow in capillaries hence its very useful in nasal surgery.

Yes, I went through a time in my teens when I suffered from bad nosebleeds and I remember the 'cocaine liquid' that was put up my nose on cotton wool before a couple of cauterization sessions.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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The article waxes so eloquently about this beloved product that I would have mistaken it for a paid PR piece. The article is great read nonetheless. For those who are also interested in the other darker, grimier side of the same coin, might want to check out its use of mercenaries for union busting in South America(by murder of course. In the hands of the right spinners that would be 'terrorism'), similar stuff happe…

The union-busting incident, while dark, seems to be an isolated incident. If you saw the kinds of gangsters that become union leaders in South America these days, you'd at least consider using mercenaries. The local Coca Cola union head here in Uruguay is not a man to be trifled with (Richard Read), he has gotten them incredible benefits (it pays better than programming over here :P ). And the guys in Argentina are l…

3.5 dollars? That's what 0.5 liters of cola cost in 7-11 in Denmark!
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