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Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by bane »

janjongboom wrote: post #66
bane wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually surprised how cheap their OCONUS warzone rates are. Many contractors will pay hazardous bonuses, time in theater bonuses and living condition bonuses on top of the CONUS base pay. Added up it can far exceed this kind of rate. But this is probably helpful for people getting into consulting to see what hourly rates are for this kind of work. In my experience these rates are actually fairly cheap. I'm used…

What's a "time in theater" bonus? Never heard of the term & can't find it on Google either.

It's a bonus paid after spending n months in a warzone.

e.g. After 4 calendar months, $5000, after 8, $10,000.

Hazard pay is usually some percentage on top of base pay and if you're "lucky" and qualify for "living condition pay" it's another percentage on top of that. I have some associates here in the D.C. area that tell me at the height of the Iraq War they were pulling down ~$300k/yr all added up, on base salaries of $80-90k.

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by crazypyro »

gerbal wrote: post #67
trhway wrote: post #9

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with 90 days warranty :) Can it rot? Anyway, from their Gotham page https://www.palantir.com/palantir-gotham/ "Working closely with the customer, our engineers integrate and map all of the relevant source data—regardless of type or volume—into a single, coherent model. ... Once the model has been created, data flows continuously from its sources into the Palantir Gotham platform. ... They can search across all of the…

> it is imagination what separates losers from winners! :) Imagination and lucrative government contracts.

And a billion dollars that was used to pay off a competitor after stealing their technology.

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by dreamweapon »

bane wrote: post #52
xamdam wrote: post #31

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You don't need a clearance. We have large commercial deployments.

I did some consulting work with the NYPD and heard you guys also have some deployments with them and other large police forces. Those are nice non-clearance, but cool, jobs as well.

"Cool" I guess, if you consider working for the NYPD to be cool.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner [2] https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/nypd-muslim-surveillance [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_Cit...

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by kevinschumacher »

AJ007 wrote: post #40
bane wrote: post #27

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It's less automated data analytics and more chart drawing and semantic knowledge base management tied to a federated search system. Their principle competitor is http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/analysts-notebook They used to have a free trial you could run via java webstart on their website, but they've taken it down. Here's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86VKjFSMJE It's big data in the sense tha…

Interesting, it looks a lot like Maltego.

Both use yEd

http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yfiles_about.html

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by dreamweapon »

dkarapetyan wrote: post #11

So what exactly do you get for those prices? Some data munging and analytics? Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster. But this is the government so that might be more expensive than forking over the cash to Palantir.

Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster.

Umm, a bit of shell scripting may also be required.

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by bane »

dreamweapon wrote: post #73
bane wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did some consulting work with the NYPD and heard you guys also have some deployments with them and other large police forces. Those are nice non-clearance, but cool, jobs as well.

"Cool" I guess, if you consider working for the NYPD to be cool. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner [2] https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/nypd-muslim-surveillance [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_Cit...

I do.

All big organizations do bad things in specific cases and have problems that need to be addressed - the NYPD is no different. For every one of these examples I can point to a hundred cases where some officer put their life on the line to do their job and help do their part to make NYC a decent place to live.

To give you an idea of how big the NYPD is as an organization, it's about a third larger than the active duty Army of Australia.

My couple times working with them showed most of the officers I encountered to be genuinely concerned about their city and a strong desire to do a good and fair job.

And yes of course there's lots of rallying together and supporting each other, even when that support often doesn't make sense to an outsider. But they really don't have anybody else they can rely on for their safety and support. And they take enormous flak and disrespect from the public on a daily basis for pretty much exercising any aspect of their function.

But as a large police force, the NYPD is basically a model for other large municiple forces and are heads and tails above deeply problematic large forces like the LAPD.

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by irremediable »

elblanco wrote: post #43
hkmurakami wrote: post #39

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They sure have chosen their preferred client industries of Government and Financial Services wisely then. Those industries (a) are accustomed to paying that much for their technology, and (b) are very unlikely to leave your platform once you start using your wares, since the difficulty of getting them as a customer in the first place (and how slow they move and how much paperwork / due diligence is required) directly…

there's a fair amount of vendor lock-in in this space as well and Palantir is pretty good at it. They talk quite a bit about open standards and what not. But moving off of their platform and onto one of the competing ones is basically impossible. They've done a fantastic job at disrupting the link-chart market (which is surprisingly robust) and making it seem like customers are buying something else, but at 2-3x the…

I'm not comfortable going one way or another on Palantir, but...

> They hide their sales guys as "forward deployed engineers" and obfuscate their sales process to the point where it doesn't seem like you've ever dealt with the kind of sketchy enterprise sales goon you'd deal with from any of their competitors.

Really? I've known a couple of forward deployed engineers there, and I assure you, they're not salespeople.

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by bane »

kevinschumacher wrote: post #74
AJ007 wrote: post #40

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Interesting, it looks a lot like Maltego.

Both use yEd http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yfiles_about.html

That's interesting, do you have a source on that? I got into using yEd recently and was struck with how similar it seemed to tools like Palantir. It seems like something like yEd or other graphing tools are only a couple sprints from basically doing the same thing...at least from the user/client side.

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Post by peterwwillis »

1337biz wrote: post #65
wahsd wrote: post #64

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"cagey" is the perfect one word description for Palantir. I am not quite sure if even this community quite understands what Palantir is and does. Things aren't quite what they appear to be.

So what are they "really" doing?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-o...

Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]

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Post by lkjhskjhsdkjh »

irremediable wrote: post #77
elblanco wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's a fair amount of vendor lock-in in this space as well and Palantir is pretty good at it. They talk quite a bit about open standards and what not. But moving off of their platform and onto one of the competing ones is basically impossible. They've done a fantastic job at disrupting the link-chart market (which is surprisingly robust) and making it seem like customers are buying something else, but at 2-3x the…

I'm not comfortable going one way or another on Palantir, but... > They hide their sales guys as "forward deployed engineers" and obfuscate their sales process to the point where it doesn't seem like you've ever dealt with the kind of sketchy enterprise sales goon you'd deal with from any of their competitors. Really? I've known a couple of forward deployed engineers there, and I assure you, they're not salespeople.

Not all FDEs are the same. It so happens that many of the FDEs do the selling aspect as well as implementation.
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