Can't access gsaadvantage.gov via Tor. hmm
Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
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Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#62Favourite part: "Palantir is in no way affiliated with, or endorsed or sponsored by, The Saul Zaentz Company d.b.a. Tolkien Enterprises or the Estate of J.R.R. Tolkien."
Funny, but necessary. The Zaentz company is notoriously litigious. From Zaentz' Wikipedia article: "In 2011, Zaentz's company began several legal actions against small businesses in the UK to enforce their "Hobbit" trade mark, including the Hungry Hobbit cafe in Sarehole, near Birmingham[13][14] and a pub in Southampton, England, which had traded as The Hobbit for twenty years.[15] This raised the ire of many British…
As a somewhat frequent visitor to The Hobbit in Southampton, the litigation is laaaame.
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
The alternative to Palantir - an alternative enterprise bespoke system or one built by the companies' or Gov's IT department - costs a whole lot more (25x) and often doesn't work! Palantir is a great value.
I presume you're talking about the DCGS-A system. Palantir has done an expert level job confusing the public on this. That system definitely has problems (it's terrible and sucks in many places), but it's a system of much larger capability and complexity than Palantir. Comparing Palantir to it is like comparing a wheel to a an entire transport system. Palantir could comfortably fit in as a single capabilty in DCGS-A…
> there's presently a forward looking mandate from big Army to drop flash and java clients
I would feel way safer if the IC & military disabled Flash & Java in their browsers, along with the rest of the web. Those two plugins have shaped up to be quite the vehicles for zero-days.
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#64For folks who've never seen one of these. 132-33 - Price for a Palantir server, priced per core. $141k per core. Includes 1 year of "maintenance" (support and software upgrades). 132-34 - This is the maintenance for second year on. $28k per core. How many users can a core support? I dunno. But let's say you can serve 50 people off of a 4-core system (you can redo the math for the number of users). You initial purchas…
I've done a bit of work with Palantir. This is basically spot on. They're really cagey about the core/user requirement in real life so I'd be comfortable in saying most customer over purchase cores. They usually staff 2-3 full time guys for every 30-50 people and the implementation takes forever . I know of more than one place that didn't have a working system a full year after purchase. Meaning the maintenance had a…
"cagey" is the perfect one word description for Palantir.
I am not quite sure if even this community quite understands what Palantir is and does. Things aren't quite what they appear to be.
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've done a bit of work with Palantir. This is basically spot on. They're really cagey about the core/user requirement in real life so I'd be comfortable in saying most customer over purchase cores. They usually staff 2-3 full time guys for every 30-50 people and the implementation takes forever . I know of more than one place that didn't have a working system a full year after purchase. Meaning the maintenance had a…
"cagey" is the perfect one word description for Palantir. I am not quite sure if even this community quite understands what Palantir is and does. Things aren't quite what they appear to be.
So what are they "really" doing?
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#66132-51 CONS CONUS FSR Support hourly rate. CONUS rates will be billed for Services performed outside the continental U.S. unless in a warzone. Normal business hours are defined as an 8-hour work day (rate is 15% more outside of normal business hours). $ 146.60 132-51 OCONS OCONUS FSR Support hourly rate. OCONUS rates will be billed for Services performed in a warzone. Normal business hours are defined as a 12-hour wo…
I'm actually surprised how cheap their OCONUS warzone rates are. Many contractors will pay hazardous bonuses, time in theater bonuses and living condition bonuses on top of the CONUS base pay. Added up it can far exceed this kind of rate. But this is probably helpful for people getting into consulting to see what hourly rates are for this kind of work. In my experience these rates are actually fairly cheap. I'm used…
What's a "time in theater" bonus? Never heard of the term & can't find it on Google either.
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
"per core"
with 90 days warranty :) Can it rot? Anyway, from their Gotham page https://www.palantir.com/palantir-gotham/ "Working closely with the customer, our engineers integrate and map all of the relevant source data—regardless of type or volume—into a single, coherent model. ... Once the model has been created, data flows continuously from its sources into the Palantir Gotham platform. ... They can search across all of the…
> it is imagination what separates losers from winners! :)
Imagination and lucrative government contracts.
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
eldemar is providing some of the information. I'd add some color the i2 suit. The fraud perpetrated by Palantir was actually so organized and so bad (they set up an entirely fake front company in another state), that the suing company asked the judge for the case to be tried under RICO rules...which are basically rules put in place to fight the mafia. The judge agreed that it qualified under the law (immediately trip…
I'm always surprised how cheap it is to buy politicians. I would expect a company like Palantir to spend much more than 1.1 million on lobbying. Does anybody know how much the 'consultancy fees' to former government officials are in total?
Heh, if anybody does, please make a spot market website, to see what it costs to buy at which level and in which political camp.
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#69For folks who've never seen one of these. 132-33 - Price for a Palantir server, priced per core. $141k per core. Includes 1 year of "maintenance" (support and software upgrades). 132-34 - This is the maintenance for second year on. $28k per core. How many users can a core support? I dunno. But let's say you can serve 50 people off of a 4-core system (you can redo the math for the number of users). You initial purchas…
Navigating enterprise sales cycles is a giant pain but man is it profitable compared to the latest social startup du jour.
And not just enterprise sales but GSA Schedule sales, which is even more hoops to jump through but there is a huge payoff if you become a government vendor. It's not free money or anything, they're a tough customer, but you won't go broke doing it ;)
Re: Palantir Pricelist (page 27) [pdf]
#70For folks who've never seen one of these. 132-33 - Price for a Palantir server, priced per core. $141k per core. Includes 1 year of "maintenance" (support and software upgrades). 132-34 - This is the maintenance for second year on. $28k per core. How many users can a core support? I dunno. But let's say you can serve 50 people off of a 4-core system (you can redo the math for the number of users). You initial purchas…
They sure have chosen their preferred client industries of Government and Financial Services wisely then. Those industries (a) are accustomed to paying that much for their technology, and (b) are very unlikely to leave your platform once you start using your wares, since the difficulty of getting them as a customer in the first place (and how slow they move and how much paperwork / due diligence is required) directly…
I am not sure I see the brilliance in their actions. It's rather expected. Not only is what you described true, but government and finance are also the main two sectors that are most interested in violating and usurping through unfair advantage and full spectrum tracking and monitoring.