$15/mo is still too high for dabblers. It should have a free or cheaper tier (with low quota, or $0.20/hr, bill as-you-use like AWS) for people who want want to fiddle.
Launching Today: Mathematica Online
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Re: Launching Today: Mathematica Online
#22$15/mo is still too high for dabblers. It should have a free or cheaper tier (with low quota, or $0.20/hr, bill as-you-use like AWS) for people who want want to fiddle.
Allowing people to try it for free would definitely help them attract potential users.
IMO they should just use a cookie to let you try it out for a couple of days, and then tell you that you need to buy the product. It's easy to circumvent, but a ton of people would just choose to pay for it.
I also think that they should have some kind of student pricing. Many students couldn't afford $15/month, but they might be able to afford $15/year.
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#23How is data security handled? If a company wanted to analyze some sensitive/proprietary-type data, could they do so in Mathematica Online with some confidence that the data is safe?
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I disagree, I think the notebook is one of the best interfaces I've ever found. Just not for "traditional programming". The notebook is a literate programming document. It contains my thoughts and process for creating an algorithm/piece of code along with tests and examples. This is very, very different from how people traditionally "program". However, Mathematica has some very real, very strong deficiencies if you w…
> Unit testing ... are only available at the higher price levels. Actually, this is now available for everyone, something I advocated for. VerificationTest and TestReport are the key functions there. Good implicit suggestion about QuickCheck. We've supported unit testing in our Eclipse plugin for years, and with V10 brought the MUnit package into the System context with a redesign of the essential functions.
Yeah quickcheck (and smart check which minimizes the counterexamples) seem like places where mathematica could shine bright for software debs.
I would absolutely adore seeing smart check implemented in Mathematica. Please make it so.
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Open source version of Alpha? That will never happen. Wolfram is the most anti-source-code person out there. He even has this diatribe about why you should not be allowed to see "his" source code: http://reference.wolfram.com/language/tutorial/WhyYouDoNotUs...
That's odd for a business so concerned about selling to academia. You'd expect journals to reject papers where the number-crunching went through a "black box" like that.
He's known as a bit of an egomaniac. If you fancy some entertainment, go looking on reddit or whatever for testimony from former employees.
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#26I have been waiting for "Mathematica Online" to be released since they've been giving hints about it "coming soon" since about 2008. So this is a big announcement. Us Sage developers have also been building something similar to this, but around IPython/Sage https://cloud.sagemath.com , and we've also built something similar for embedding in web pages https://sagecell.sagemath.org/ .
You can try Maxima online (http://maxima-online.org/). Maxima is an open source CAS written in Common Lisp.
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I would have loved to have something like this in school. I ended up paying for mathematica while working on my degree. I think IPython/Sage connected to an open-source version of Wolfram Alpha would be a Killer app. Any chance Julia would be integrated at some point?
Open source version of Alpha? That will never happen. Wolfram is the most anti-source-code person out there. He even has this diatribe about why you should not be allowed to see "his" source code: http://reference.wolfram.com/language/tutorial/WhyYouDoNotUs...
SymPy has made a start on an open source version of Alpha, SymPy Gamma,
The biggest missing piece it's missing is the data used by Alpha. It's missing other things as well, but it's a start.
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#28$15/mo is still too high for dabblers. It should have a free or cheaper tier (with low quota, or $0.20/hr, bill as-you-use like AWS) for people who want want to fiddle.
Allowing people to try it for free would definitely help them attract potential users. IMO they should just use a cookie to let you try it out for a couple of days, and then tell you that you need to buy the product. It's easy to circumvent, but a ton of people would just choose to pay for it. I also think that they should have some kind of student pricing. Many students couldn't afford $15/month, but they might be a…
I'm a SymPy developer, but I'd probably pay $15/year just to test different things so I could compare results. I won't pay $15/month, though. Especially since other developers have access to it, mainly through their university.
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I would have loved to have something like this in school. I ended up paying for mathematica while working on my degree. I think IPython/Sage connected to an open-source version of Wolfram Alpha would be a Killer app. Any chance Julia would be integrated at some point?
Open source version of Alpha? That will never happen. Wolfram is the most anti-source-code person out there. He even has this diatribe about why you should not be allowed to see "his" source code: http://reference.wolfram.com/language/tutorial/WhyYouDoNotUs...
How can academics use this software without being exasperated that the name "Wolfram" is constantly shoved into their face?
Especially since the guy only wrote a fraction of the "Wolfram System" (A NEW KIND OF SYSTEM!!!).
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#30You've got to love the choice of names in the cloud file permissions screenshot, chosen to sit alongside Stephen Wolfram :-)