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Re: iPhone 6

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Post by Kurtz79 »

bane wrote: post #131
mrb wrote: post #22

ALL iPhone generations released so far have a CSS pixel width of 320 pixels. But the iPhone 6 is the first to change this. It looks like Apple is finally bumping this up! This means a bit more text can fit on each line when holding the phone vertically for websites using : - iPhone 6 is 1334x750: CSS pixel width is likely 375px (pixel ratio = 2) - iPhone 6 Plus is 1920x1080: CSS pixel width is likely either 432px (pi…

BTW, a quick review of Gruber's analysis. http://daringfireball.net/2014/08/larger_iphone_display_conj... Spot on for the 6, off for the 6+. So what does this mean for 6+ users and developers?

With hindsight, I don't think a resolution higher than 1080p was ever an option for Apple.

Wasn't the original Retina display touted close to the limit of human perception ?

Regardless of marketingspeak, higher resolution displays have unclear benefits, since possibly people won't notice difference in sharpness, and clear drawbacks, as increased battery consumption:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-...

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by oatmeal_coffee »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #137
oatmeal_coffee wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True unless someone has made years of investments in iTunes-sourced content, then moving over to a cheaper phone with the same feature set is no longer an apples-to-apples comparison. I have a collection that goes back to iTunes' and the iPod's very first days. I'm not terribly keen going through any conversion/repurchasing process.

If you bought your music after Apple finally ditched DRM, you can upload your AAC files to Google Music for free and sync/stream them to all your Android devices as well as your laptops/desktops. If you "bought" your music with Apple DRM, you can pay another fee to actually own it and be able to play it on a non-Apple devices. If you "bought" your videos with Apple DRM, consider it a lesson learned.

Taking the entire migration process you describe changes the "price" to be paid for similar phone, so my claim of false equivalence still stands.

There's no "lesson" when I have made the conscious decision to stick with Apple all these years. I may have paid a premium paying for iPods and iPhones, but I feel my time is valuable enough to not have to mess around with my media files in any way you describe. Nor do I feel the urge to spend money on music I have already purchased, but I don't see that as being a mistake from which to learn a lesson. Nothing has happened to me with Apple or its products so egregious to feel compelled to take on anything like you describe.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by Kurtz79 »

sid05 wrote: post #101
eisa01 wrote: post #78

Too bad there is no longer a high end 4" model. The iPhone 5S won't support Apple Pay since it doesn't have NFC, and it is no longer available in 64 GB. I would have thought that Apple understood they have customers that actually prefer the 4" size, or else they wouldn't have had any sales the last years. Let's hope for a iPhone 6S mini next year.

The 4.7 in version bump is negligible for most ppl's palms. Even the majority of people with small hands still engulf the 4 in. size. I think it would be a moot point in a majority of cases unless you are really jones'ing for the pocket space and portability...

The thing is, I cannot see how the increase in screen size will improve the functionality of the phone, at least in my case.

As a phone, messenger, and audio player, the main functions for me, I cannot see any benefit.

As a game console, gps/maps client, e-mail client I can see some marginal benefits from the larger screen, but not to justify the increased bulkiness.

I usually do not use my phone for web browsing, as a video player and e-book reader, due to the small screen, and I cannot see the .7 increase being big enough to change that.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by vacri »

coldtea wrote: post #267
bane wrote: post #124

I'm sure this will be downvoted into oblivion but I have Karma to burn preaching some truth. Between big phones (even the small iphone 6 is bigger!), the watch and NFC, Apple is clearly repositioning themselves as fast followers and letting Samsung et. al. foot the bill on R&D and market building. They're probably hoping they can provide higher quality (and more profitable) offerings in markets that somebody else has…

> I'm sure this will be downvoted into oblivion but I have Karma to burn preaching some truth. Between big phones (even the small iphone 6 is bigger!), the watch and NFC, Apple is clearly repositioning themselves as fast followers and letting Samsung et. al. foot the bill on R&D and market building. First, there's not much (if anything) they have gotten off of Samsung about these devices, except maybe how not to do s…

First, there's not much (if anything) they have gotten off of Samsung about these devices

I have a black Samsung Galaxy S3. I held it up against the image of the iPhone 6, and they're barely different. The s3 has slightly bowed sides, and the two phones have a home button with a different shape. Oh, and the Apple phone doesn't have 'Samsung' written on the front (I haven't seen an image of the back, so you never know...)

I'd love for Samsung to turn around and sue them back on this design issue.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by vacri »

thathonkey wrote: post #193
mrb wrote: post #22

ALL iPhone generations released so far have a CSS pixel width of 320 pixels. But the iPhone 6 is the first to change this. It looks like Apple is finally bumping this up! This means a bit more text can fit on each line when holding the phone vertically for websites using : - iPhone 6 is 1334x750: CSS pixel width is likely 375px (pixel ratio = 2) - iPhone 6 Plus is 1920x1080: CSS pixel width is likely either 432px (pi…

This is going to throw advertising firms into an epic tizzy. The de facto mobile web ad size has been standardized around the 320px (320x50 usually) width of portrait iPhones since basically the dawn of smartphone advertising. Now suddenly they have 3 widths to worry about just for iPhone.

If those firms couldn't foresee a resolution ratio change "sometime in the future", that their own fault for not being on top of their game.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by [deleted] »

cryptoz wrote: post #10
dominotw wrote: post #6

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How is that going to be useful?

I'm building a dense network of atmosphere sensors using smartphones in order to build a more accurate weather model [1]. Android's APIs allow us to access the raw data, but all of Apple's marketing talks just about "elevation". I'm hoping they give us access to the raw sensor, and not just elevation change. Humanity ought to have a much better weather forecast than we have now, as we're nearing 1B+ internet-connecte…

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Re: iPhone 6

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Post by eridius »

downandout wrote: post #260
eridius wrote: post #218

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Exactly how much does it affect battery life? I wouldn't be at all surprised if the answer is "a lot ". I'm sure engineers at Apple would love to be able to provide 2GB of RAM (after all, they're using this device too!), but the fact that they're not either means it is cost-prohibitive (unlikely) or has an unacceptable impact on battery.

Samsung has managed to do it and still maintains (arguably) reasonable battery life. I like Apple products in general, but the whole overpriced/underpowered thing gets a little old.

> I like Apple products in general, but the whole overpriced/underpowered thing gets a little old.

Funny, I'd say the same thing about the people who've been repeating the "overpriced/underpowered" trope ever since it stopped being true over a decade ago.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by bane »

Kurtz79 wrote: post #269
bane wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not an iPhone fan by any stretch of the imagination. But I recognize the importance of Apple playing a major role in the smartphone market in terms of making the competition much much better than they would be otherwise. The glacial slow response from Apple on things like phone size is really strange. I can really only attribute it to a larger picture shift in focus and approach between Apple and Samsung. There's…

About the specs: I don't think the average iPhone buyer is concerned about them as much as the average HN user. In the end what it counts is user experience, and if the average user see sharp, quick, responsive UI and fast applications he/she couldn't care less about how much RAM the phone has. Storage is a different issue, but Apple got away until now offering more storage as a premium, so why change ?

I don't really disagree with you, but specs can be an indicator of capability. With modern Android phones hitting 3GB and soon 4GB of RAM, multi-tasking is really nice on that kind of phone.

This all sounds like feature talk, but here's my use-case at least: being able to listen to music, get directions in the background and switch between a game, the web, and a book in the foreground without worrying about any of the apps getting killed due to low memory is really empowering and enjoyable.

My old phone would kill one or two of those apps outright and it was nothing more than memory getting cleared up.

If the rumor is true, 1GB of RAM is really a full phone generation behind. Even weirder, I would have expected Apple to be using their 64bit CPU tech to push the boundaries of memory on phones.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by matt4711 »

baddox wrote: post #237
cseelus wrote: post #188

No current gen iPhone that fits in my pocket and that I can comfortably use with one hand? Anyone remember this Apple ad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk

Nope. It looks like I'll be at an impasse when I next want to upgrade my phone. It seems like no one is making high end <= 4" phones any more.

besides the sony z1 compact which is actually quite nice. there will probably be a z2 compact soon.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by Zikes »

l33tbro wrote: post #247
Zikes wrote: post #36

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Especially surprising given how much they're pushing it to replace camcorders as well as DSLRs. I mean, how much raw HD video fits in just 16GB? Or even what's left over after half of that 16GB is filled with various apps and music? I miss when phones used to have easily accessible microSD slots.

".... as well as DSLRs". Dammit, better sell off those Zeiss master primes and get me some Apple glass ;)

It's got "Focus Pixels" man! You'd be crazy not to!
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