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Re: iPhone 6

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> Let's hope for a iPhone 6S mini next year. Or an iPhone 6S Minus. Am I the only one who thinks "iPhone Plus" sounds oddly un-Apple-ish?

No you are not. In fact Gruber's podcast yesterday talked about that very thing. They thought it might be called iPhone "pro" because anything else meaning bigger just doesn't sound like Apple. Overall this whole event was odd. It was more Apple reacting to trends rather than setting them...

Having a "pro" means the other option is "un-pro".

Apple knows their iPhones are (to some extent) status symbols, and just like the 5c failed because it was perceived as the "cheap model", they had to come up with a value neutral modifier for "big". And given both 6 models are larger than all previous ones, they could hardly have the 6 and 6 mini.

Re: iPhone 6

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There's nothing that comes close to the iPhone camera on Android, unfortunately. :(

I am in both Android and iOS camps and I'd say the Note 3's camera comes very close, perhaps even beating it on stills and certainly on 4K recording. The Note's auto-focus is absolutely hideous though so for short videos/vlogging/Vine/Facetime/Skype the iPhone is still the winner. I'm still getting the 6 Plus instead of the Note 4 though.. simply because it's three fewer weeks to wait ;-P

The multi-tone flash on the iPhone is a killer feature that even expensive DSLRs don't have...

Re: iPhone 6

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Truth be told, even though I switched from iOS to Android recently (and been quite happy), I have admired Apple when they stuck to their guns w.r.t screen size. It showed to me that they were being sensible about respecting the dimensions of our hands. The iPhone (hardware) just feels quite comfortable to use and hold. Also, iPhone 4's design was excellent - I kinda got used to the distinctive feel of an Apple phone…

Having used a range of phone sizes, the iPhones have always felt quite small to me. And while I'm a happy Nexus 5 user, I admit that it's ever so slightly too big. I really think 4.7" is the magic number for most peoples' hands (based on my experience trying out a Moto X), and adding 5.5" gets them a chance at the "phablet" crowd.

Re: iPhone 6

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I'm sure this will be downvoted into oblivion but I have Karma to burn preaching some truth. Between big phones (even the small iphone 6 is bigger!), the watch and NFC, Apple is clearly repositioning themselves as fast followers and letting Samsung et. al. foot the bill on R&D and market building. They're probably hoping they can provide higher quality (and more profitable) offerings in markets that somebody else has…

The iPhone 5c is still available for sale. (Technically free, with a 2 year contract.)

Re: iPhone 6

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I'm sure this will be downvoted into oblivion but I have Karma to burn preaching some truth. Between big phones (even the small iphone 6 is bigger!), the watch and NFC, Apple is clearly repositioning themselves as fast followers and letting Samsung et. al. foot the bill on R&D and market building. They're probably hoping they can provide higher quality (and more profitable) offerings in markets that somebody else has…

>I'm sure this will be downvoted into oblivion but I have Karma to burn preaching some truth. Between big phones (even the small iphone 6 is bigger!), the watch and NFC, Apple is clearly repositioning themselves as fast followers and letting Samsung et. al. foot the bill on R&D and market building.

First, there's not much (if anything) they have gotten off of Samsung about these devices, except maybe how not to do some things.

First, if you have seen the prototype iPads and iPhones tested, they've actually built all kinds of prototypes in different sizes half a decade or more ago. And obviously the same thing holds for the Watch and the bigger iPhone: they were in development for at least a couple of years, iterating and refining them.

Unlike the iPad, which at least also had a redesigned GUI library (and thought behind it) to take advantage of the larger screen, a slightly larger iPhone is not something not obvious. Apple could have made the iPhone 5 a 6" model if they liked to rush things, it's not that they missed some key insight. What they actually did was wait for several things to fall into place, like baterry capacity, CPU/GPU power to provide a smooth experience with the bigger screen, etc.

If Samsung provided anything is just some early "market research" in the feasibility of selling a large phone. There's nothing technical or UI-wise here that was copied, or needed to be copied, from a Samsung phone.

Second, Samsung only started on their watches when rumours of an iWatch pending had already surfaced (and it shows, since theirs was mostly a hack job of mashing existing stuff and rushed decisions). Apple was building the thing for a long time, and I'd say has put far more thought and polish on the whole thing that anything we've previously seen from competitors (including Peeble).

>I'm also reminded that the "c" model has been dropped. Sales figures didn't seem to be very high and I think the experiment has been deemed a failure.

Actually, it sold very well. "From the constant harping about the supposed "failure" of Apple's iPhone 5c, you'd think the phone is selling poorly. The reality is that middle tier model, while dramatically less popular than Apple's top of the line iPhone 5s, still managed to outsell every Blackberry, every Windows Phone and every Android flagship in the winter quarter, including Samsung's Galaxy S4.". http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/03/22/apples-iphone-5c-f...

In general it was constantly in the top-3 to 5 best selling phones for all US carriers. Most phone companies (including Samsung) would kill for a "flop" like this.

Second, it wasn't dropped. It's still available, and just rolled on the $0 with contract tier.

Re: iPhone 6

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I have big hands and I still agree with you. I hung on to my Nexus One well past its expiry date because of the size of it. Eventually I had to move up and being in the Android realm I came VERY close to buying the Moto X because of its narrower form factor in my hand. In the end I went Nexus 5 but it still feels big to me.

I've still got my Nexus One, though I almost clicked 'Buy Now' on a Nexus 5 today. Mind doing a comparison?

Thanks all!

Re: iPhone 6

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Honestly that's kind of always been Apple's strategy. They're usually not the first mover, but they try to be the best mover. I think they've been a little bit slow to follow shifts in the smartphone market though. They should've had a larger iPhone quite some time ago, and they were unfashionably late on notifications and 4G. Still, this latest release will sell briskly per usual. Jury's out on the Apple Watch. Espe…

I'm not an iPhone fan by any stretch of the imagination. But I recognize the importance of Apple playing a major role in the smartphone market in terms of making the competition much much better than they would be otherwise. The glacial slow response from Apple on things like phone size is really strange. I can really only attribute it to a larger picture shift in focus and approach between Apple and Samsung. There's…

About the specs: I don't think the average iPhone buyer is concerned about them as much as the average HN user.

In the end what it counts is user experience, and if the average user see sharp, quick, responsive UI and fast applications he/she couldn't care less about how much RAM the phone has.

Storage is a different issue, but Apple got away until now offering more storage as a premium, so why change ?

Re: iPhone 6

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The 4.7 in version bump is negligible for most ppl's palms. Even the majority of people with small hands still engulf the 4 in. size. I think it would be a moot point in a majority of cases unless you are really jones'ing for the pocket space and portability...

I will definitely try it just to be sure, but even the move from 3.5" to 4" started to stretch it when reaching for the top left corner of the screen for me. And then there's this ad from the original iPhone 5 release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk No iPhone 6 option at 4" is in direct contradiction to what they said before. It's a reason the Apple Watch is released in two different faces, people are di…

Agreed that it’s rather awkward to tap the top left corner—unless you have large hands. Fortunately, more apps are now supporting the ‘swipe from left edge’ gesture to go back (e.g. Safari).
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