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DSLR – Damn Small Linux Remake

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Re: DSLR – Damn Small Linux Remake

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Every site should be able to function normally without JS. Granted that doesn't necessarily hold true for web apps, but for regular sites they shouldn't lose functionality because somebody has JS disabled (or doesn't have it at all!)

I agree with you. I have js disabled by default and every time I run up against a site that uses client-side templating I find it incredibly annoying - I understand the rationale behind it but it's still annoying how many things tend to break without javascript. However, you can't design a browser around an expectation of what the web should be like. And anyway, it could be worse. If there were no javascript we would…

> VBScript

shudder

JS itself isn't bad, it's the misuse which is bad. Subtle JS use should add _extra_ functionality, not _be_ the functionality.

It's funny, I was just having a conversation about JS in freenode #python the other day and we were complaining/discussing the same thing.

The worst is when my browser freezes because of some JS that's too over the top.

Re: DSLR – Damn Small Linux Remake

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Why would they even care for SEO? It's not like it's a commercial project.

Why wouldn't they care just because it's not commercial?

Because their ability to work on this project does not depend on its accessibility from a search engine.

Re: DSLR – Damn Small Linux Remake

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Probably because most users would prefer that the sites they visit actually work. Supporting other embedded languages might be nice, but of course, unless all the major browsers also support the same, sites would have to provide an alternative in javascript for everybody else. Not supporting javascript at all when it's integrated so deeply into the web, when you will doubtless be able to simply turn it off if you wan…

Every site should be able to function normally without JS. Granted that doesn't necessarily hold true for web apps, but for regular sites they shouldn't lose functionality because somebody has JS disabled (or doesn't have it at all!)

I really hope that people start installing and testing against minimal browsers.

Modern browsers are fucking huge. Obviously they do very much more than browsers used to, but most of the time I really am just reading text and I don't want a bad designer's idea of novel UI to get in the way.

Sadly it seems like hundreds of years of design iteration for the printed word are being weakened.

Re: DSLR – Damn Small Linux Remake

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When I was in high school I had a 16mb flash drive, so I made a tiny Linux distro for it! It had X11 with blackbox, a web browser (dillo), a mail client (sylpheed), an IM client (ayttm), a VNC client, a music player (xmms), a terminal (rxvt), busybox with a lot of options set, and ssh (dropbear).

I just found the image of that flash drive, if anyone is interested. Keep in mind it is unchanged from its original form in 2006 :)

Image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lomxad7cqjn10w/nanolinux.img?dl=0

Virtualbox Image (identical, converted with qemu-img): https://www.dropbox.com/s/uo1huoawjkkqmj7/nanolinux.vdi?dl=0

Screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7ijnd6b6688brz/Screenshot%202014-...

Re: DSLR – Damn Small Linux Remake

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Is the "NEVER RUN AS ROOT!" mantra from modern Linux practices, or has it been that way since the mid-90s? I think that goes back all the way to Unix and its multiuser environment, where one admin's mistakes could affect everyone on the system - so people were naturally scared of root. On the other hand, on the earliest personal computer OSs, which were basically single-user (many don't even have the concept of a "us…

Ah... That is very insightful, thank you. I continually forget the days of timesharing, etc. For my entire life (born during the Tiannamen Square riots), personal computers have typically hosted one user at a time.

That statment is actually true for the entire existence of personal computers... you might even say it's the definition of a PC. However, Unix didn't start on PCs, it started on minicomputers.

Re: DSLR – Damn Small Linux Remake

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Back in 2008 when I was in high school I picked up computers that were thrown out by the school with 256 or less RAM. The smallest one only had 64mb of RAM! I managed to install Ubuntu 6 on it but I could feel the lag. I found DSL and I had no trouble running it on them at all. The iSO was only 50MB irrc. It was damn small. This was me: http://damnsmalllinux.org/static/act-Print/f-1/t-19848.html

I keep a copy of SuSE Linux from 1998. It have six CD-roms (in a time were Internet by dial-up was not cheap here), but I remember that I managed to install it on 200-300 MiB with a machine with less of 256 MiB of ram, and It could run GNOME 1.0 over KDE !!!! And it was running pretty soft.
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