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Re: A hilariously sad tale of gender bias

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Serious question, what is this representative of? Random internet comments? Unscientific internet polls? I honestly can't figure out a reason why any of this is any more relevant or scientific than a youtube comments argument about why some band does or does not suck monkey chode.

Clearly, people are not allowed to question the coding ability of a female because it's sexism.

Re: A hilariously sad tale of gender bias

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Serious question, what is this representative of? Random internet comments? Unscientific internet polls? I honestly can't figure out a reason why any of this is any more relevant or scientific than a youtube comments argument about why some band does or does not suck monkey chode.

Clearly, people are not allowed to question the coding ability of a female because it's sexism.

Obviously it is sexism if you doubt the coding ability of a female because she's female.

HN fucking sucks for these topics.

Re: A hilariously sad tale of gender bias

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Clearly, people are not allowed to question the coding ability of a female because it's sexism.

Obviously it is sexism if you doubt the coding ability of a female because she's female. HN fucking sucks for these topics.

No one is doubting her ability because she's female. But you should be allowed to doubt their ability no matter their gender is.

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post #52

Serious question, what is this representative of? Random internet comments? Unscientific internet polls? I honestly can't figure out a reason why any of this is any more relevant or scientific than a youtube comments argument about why some band does or does not suck monkey chode.

Clearly, people are not allowed to question the coding ability of a female because it's sexism.

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Re: A hilariously sad tale of gender bias

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Ok, something about this story seems a bit amiss. Gayle Laakmann is complaining about people thinking she is a recruiter, supposedly because she's a woman.

Hmm, I'm curious - who is this person? How does she portray herself? Are there any other possible reasons people might view her as someone working in the general HR space?

http://www.gayle.com/consulting/

I can't imagine why a consultant who helps with "Technical Interview/Recruiting Consulting" (as well as "Acquisition/Acqui-hire interview prep") would be perceived as a recruiter. Definitely due to gender.

Re: A hilariously sad tale of gender bias

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No, but we have an opportunity to be a leader and not a follower. To be on the right side of history, so to speak.

For that, the first step should probably be to have more women in STEM classes so they can get recruited in these industries to begin with. I've no idea how it currently is, but back when I was studying the ratio was something like 90% male in some curriculums. (There were exceptions, e.g. chemistry or biology, but they were rather rare.) Has this changed since?

A large part of the reason we have so few women in STEM is because of the toxic work culture that surrounds it. We also lose graduates once people decide they have better things to do than deal with sexist assholes all day.

I'm all for encouraging more women getting into STEM, but this needs to be a two-pronged approach. Without dramatic improvements to tech culture encouraging more women to study tech is mostly pointless.

FWIW, my engineering class was ~85% male. My working environments have been consistently 95%+ male. The industry is doing considerably worse than academia.

Re: A hilariously sad tale of gender bias

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Ok, something about this story seems a bit amiss. Gayle Laakmann is complaining about people thinking she is a recruiter, supposedly because she's a woman. Hmm, I'm curious - who is this person? How does she portray herself? Are there any other possible reasons people might view her as someone working in the general HR space? http://www.gayle.com/consulting/ I can't imagine why a consultant who helps with "Technical…

Also, who cares what field she says she's in? She's clearly making a lot of money on her books, why doesn't isn't she considered primarily an author? I don't think it's a problem that there aren't enough women who say that they are programmers. I think the issue is gender bias in the workplace seemingly causing a lack of women in technology rolls.

Re: A hilariously sad tale of gender bias

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You call women coders "girls" while calling men coders "male." Yes, I see sexism.

Can't tell if you are serious.

100% serious. The definition of girl is "A female child".

To refer to females who code as children while at the exact same time NOT doing that for males who code is sexist.

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