A map version of this (with contour lines for percentage awoken) would be nice. This would also eliminate the small differences in the time people in different areas seem to go to sleep and rise.
How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
At first I thought something along these lines, then I remembered: 1. Google has "trends" when things happen, and "Earthquake" was most certainly googled near/at the time it happened. 2. The phone company has records, which many people texted/called near/at the time it happened. 3. 911 has records and calls were made near/at the time it happened. and so on… So there are private entities and government that have data…
I think it also has to do with what content is being recorded. Intimate sleep data is a bit different than knowing I called 911 for an emergency situation.
Are you saying that the sleep data is more personal than calling 911? I have to question that, because you could call 911 for all sorts of private situations that you wouldn't want publicly known. So no, it's not really different.
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#63Maybe more interesting is that Santa Cruz/Modesto people are early to bed/early to rise.
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#64In response to antr and others talking about how this is "private" data, a few things:
1) Jawbone is a data company. You get what you want from them by giving them your data. Giving them your data is your choice, so if you are uncomfortable with it then you should not have a Jawbone. 2) What's interesting about this article is that it's in aggregate, across a statistically significant (so they say) number of people in these areas. They're not looking at individual stats, and I would bet would have a hard time tracing it back to a single person/name/etc, if they're even allowed to store it that way (not sure, but it would surprise me if they did).
If you don't like your data being stored somewhere, why are you even on HackerNews? You know your data is being stored here and being learned from.
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#65Interesting data. Some things that jumped out at me: 1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early. 2. I would have expected bigger jumps on the hour. Maybe I'm the only one that sets my alarm on the hour though. 3. Why would there be dips in the AM? People hitting snooze perhaps? 4. How long do you have to moving for UP to think you're awake? How long do you have to be still for the UP to…
> 1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early. Probably some selection bias at work here. It's possible the type of person who's buying and wearing personal fitness monitors is also the type of person who gets up early. > Maybe I'm the only one that sets my alarm on the hour Probably my OCD coming out but I only set my alarm with minutes beginning 0-4 and ending with 8. I'm sure everyone…
If it was selection bias like that, the same would apply to people in other cities, so it wouldn't explain the difference in the graph. My guess is people in Santa Cruz on average have a longer commute.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it also has to do with what content is being recorded. Intimate sleep data is a bit different than knowing I called 911 for an emergency situation.
Are you saying that the sleep data is more personal than calling 911? I have to question that, because you could call 911 for all sorts of private situations that you wouldn't want publicly known. So no, it's not really different.
Especially in this case. Saying something like, "I couldn't go back to sleep after that earthquake woke me up" is the kind of thing many people would share on twitter, facebook, or around the water cooler with coworkers.
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#67In response to antr and others talking about how this is "private" data, a few things: 1) Jawbone is a data company. You get what you want from them by giving them your data. Giving them your data is your choice, so if you are uncomfortable with it then you should not have a Jawbone. 2) What's interesting about this article is that it's in aggregate, across a statistically significant (so they say) number of people i…
> If you don't like your data being stored somewhere, why are you even on HackerNews?
having my sleeping records and a table of what times during the day that I shit is a lot more sensitive information than the trash I post on hacker news
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, if one is willing to one-up a fellow human like that, one is a bad person. But you don't need Jawbone data to do that, there are plenty other ways. Honestly, the problem in your example isn't the data.
one is a bad person So what? Time and time again things that would make you a bad person are silently accepted as normal or even expected of a business.
You're correctly describing the state of the world, but my indirect point was that we should stop accepting such behaviour in business and shun people who do. It's stupid and wrong.
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#69The fact that Jawbone has this information on their users (yes, I know they say it's aggregated and "anonymised" data) is pretty scary to me. In my opinion, this data should only be visible to each user, and no one else. I really doubt Jawbone users are aware that their UP devices are sending data to third-parties... it feels like 21st century shackles.
Oh, come on. I'm getting a little sick of how far the pendulum has swung in this privacy conversation.
I get the desire for privacy, but if every time people have data about them used we get this complaint, no one's going to listen when there's a real violation of privacy.
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#70Interesting data. Some things that jumped out at me: 1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early. 2. I would have expected bigger jumps on the hour. Maybe I'm the only one that sets my alarm on the hour though. 3. Why would there be dips in the AM? People hitting snooze perhaps? 4. How long do you have to moving for UP to think you're awake? How long do you have to be still for the UP to…
> 1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early.
What I'm guessing is that people in areas of higher population density stay up later and get up later on average. The 25-50 and 50-75 mile bands seem to contain the big urban centers, while the 0-25 and 75-100 bands are more the suburbs, small cities and rural areas.