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How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Since Jawbone apparently don't know how to post a simple image for old-school browsers: http://blogs-images.forbes.com/dandiamond/files/2014/08/Jawb...

And for those who've noted that the NSA are going to have all the cool data, after seeing this chart, I'm pretty sure they'll start tapping into Jawbone as well.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Interesting data. Some things that jumped out at me:

1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early.

2. I would have expected bigger jumps on the hour. Maybe I'm the only one that sets my alarm on the hour though.

3. Why would there be dips in the AM? People hitting snooze perhaps?

4. How long do you have to moving for UP to think you're awake? How long do you have to be still for the UP to think you're asleep?

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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post #22

Interesting data. Some things that jumped out at me: 1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early. 2. I would have expected bigger jumps on the hour. Maybe I'm the only one that sets my alarm on the hour though. 3. Why would there be dips in the AM? People hitting snooze perhaps? 4. How long do you have to moving for UP to think you're awake? How long do you have to be still for the UP to…

> 1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early.

Probably some selection bias at work here. It's possible the type of person who's buying and wearing personal fitness monitors is also the type of person who gets up early.

> Maybe I'm the only one that sets my alarm on the hour

Probably my OCD coming out but I only set my alarm with minutes beginning 0-4 and ending with 8. I'm sure everyone has their own habits. On the hour seems so numerically boring!

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they really dispose any of the users data though? It appears they displayed a chart. That graphic, it could be argued, is based on an entirely new data set. So while individual data sets may been used at some point behind the scenes, it's not like those data sets are the ones being disposed.

the issue is that they're collecting this data in the first place. I cant help but wonder how much it would cost to get the sleep records of a competitor of mine - or if it's not for sale, how much the data would be worth on the black market if their servers got hacked. I have doubts this information is being kept as securely as it should be, that's where my concern lies.

Well, if one is willing to one-up a fellow human like that, one is a bad person. But you don't need Jawbone data to do that, there are plenty other ways. Honestly, the problem in your example isn't the data.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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post #18

The fact that Jawbone has this information on their users (yes, I know they say it's aggregated and "anonymised" data) is pretty scary to me. In my opinion, this data should only be visible to each user, and no one else. I really doubt Jawbone users are aware that their UP devices are sending data to third-parties... it feels like 21st century shackles.

At first I thought something along these lines, then I remembered: 1. Google has "trends" when things happen, and "Earthquake" was most certainly googled near/at the time it happened. 2. The phone company has records, which many people texted/called near/at the time it happened. 3. 911 has records and calls were made near/at the time it happened. and so on… So there are private entities and government that have data…

I think it also has to do with what content is being recorded.

Intimate sleep data is a bit different than knowing I called 911 for an emergency situation.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Since Jawbone apparently don't know how to post a simple image for old-school browsers: http://blogs-images.forbes.com/dandiamond/files/2014/08/Jawb... And for those who've noted that the NSA are going to have all the cool data, after seeing this chart, I'm pretty sure they'll start tapping into Jawbone as well.

But this is not simple image. This is interactive chart. You can hover lines and get some info via tool tip. Apparently you are using quite old browser, if you don't mind asking you? Since D3js, the lib used to generate SVG, supports majority of browsers[1].

[1] https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki#browser--platform-suppor...

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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post #18

The fact that Jawbone has this information on their users (yes, I know they say it's aggregated and "anonymised" data) is pretty scary to me. In my opinion, this data should only be visible to each user, and no one else. I really doubt Jawbone users are aware that their UP devices are sending data to third-parties... it feels like 21st century shackles.

The UP bands data processing happens server sided and is indicated by the UI. Was there an indication here that a third party was involved (the post indicates its their internal data team)? Otherwise I think everyone has generally accepted internal company use of data (critical part of growth) let alone when its aggregate and anonymous.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Here I am, a resident of Melbourne, Australia, where we never get interesting earthquakes, visiting SF for the first time (staying in Belmont) and they don’t even wake me for the earthquake they evidently put on for my benefit.

Hey fellow belmont buddy! Just curious, about how old is the building that you were in when the earthquake hit?

It's just that Belmont's on bedrock. Take Ralston east toward the bay, out on the landfill a few blocks past Oracle, and you won't be sleeping through it. It shakes like Jello out here.
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