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Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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If this can print, I'll move over when it's read. I adore Sublime Text but having to c&p out of it to print is a bit of an annoyance for me. Otherwise it's a perfect app, I adore it.

Out of interest, what do you print code from Sublime? Interested in hearing why you need to print code, if that's the case.

Sublime is first and foremost a text editor, so I don't think it's a stretch to think people would use it for text editing.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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post #158

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"...but if you want to execute a compiled result of that source code I can still ask you to pay me for it." morally: yes. Legally? I don't think that there is a law (German law is the one that I know a bit) that allows you restrict the usage of a piece of software.

When you buy a game on Steam, what kind of license do you buy? I think it's a license that allows you to play the game, i.e., use the binary. But I'm certainly not a lawyer.

I have not looked in over a year, but the Steam licenses used to be very careful about avoiding the word, "buy", altogether and instead used the word, "rent".

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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I'm not opposed to an open-source text editor that aims to replicate features of a closed-source application. But "Lime Text" is clearly riding on the success of "Sublime Text", and it irks me because "Sublime Text" isn't owned by a big large company or someone with a lot of money - it's a project that started as someone's side-project and has just recently started as a full-time job.

John, the author, has been clear in the past that if for some reason he no longer wants to continue developing Sublime Text, he'd open-source it so it wouldn't rot in the bit graveyard.

Yes, GIMP rides the coattails of Photoshop, and LibreOffice rides the coattails of Microsoft Office; but these are commercial applications that are supported and paid for by consumers. Sublime Text is optional. Sublime Text is free, but you can pay for it - if you like.

Change the tag-line and keep the name.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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I don't think people care so much about how it's 60$. At work that makes little difference to me. The big thing is how this is open source.

> The big thing is how this is open source. And how does that make a difference? You could already contribute plugins to both to add/remove/alter functionality, so other than a warm fuzzy feeling, what does Open Source add to your productivity?

I'm stuck using RHEL5 and it would be nice if I could run sublime text. If it were open source, I could probably build it against RHEL5 libraries. The official binaries don't support my platform.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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I wish they wouldn't attach themselves to the sublime brand. It's not theirs, and it's pretty shady to ride another project's coattails when their intent is essentially to cannibalize it by being sublime-but-free. You can discuss the merits of open source and paying for tools all you want, but basically their goal is to put a man out of business who's made something that a lot of people love, because he has the gall…

> I wish they wouldn't attach themselves to the sublime brand They aren't claiming to be associated with Sublime - they're saying that they're trying to make something _like_ Sublime. And that is actually a pretty good way to explain it. When I first found LimeText (about a year ago) I was searching for an "open source ST2 clone". I already knew that I wanted something like Sublime, I just wanted it to be open source…

Sub-LimeText

They use wordplay on the sublime editor to name themselves.

It's up to trademark lawyers to prove if the name is associated with Sublime Text or not.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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atom.io is nothing but an icon in the Finder for me until they fix the terrible performance bottlenecks. i really like the app / features / ux, etc. but the performance is abysmal compared to sublime.

The new update switched to React on the background, and it feels much snappier, but It still groans like a dying whale at least a few times a day though.

That would mean a rewrite in a compiled language, like go.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Also being available everywhere. I like Text Mate quite a bit, but being single platform makes it harder to recommend.

> Also being available everywhere. Emacs is everywhere. Windows. Linux. GUIed. And in a terminal where I've SSHed into a remote host. TextMate? Nope. Sublime text? Nope. Atom? Nope. LightTable? No chance. These modern GUI-only editors is IMO a major step back considering the Unix-y audience they are targeting: Any decent Unix-editor needs to work on my console. No exceptions.

And I don't see anyone teaching how you write an editor with multiple front-ends! People normally start with the front-end.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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post #117

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You can do that, but it wouldn't be considered "open source" by most people, or by the OSI. http://opensource.org/osd-annotated > The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form. ... > The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software. ... > The license mus…

Your quotes say "distribution", not "except execution"

distribution in source code as well as compiled form. distribution of software _built from_.

Or you're saying it could be considered an open source license if it allowed people to distribute, but not run, executable binaries? Yeah, I don't think most people would consider that open source.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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post #89

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Same here. I'm a web developer in the US and I make $17 an hour... and that's at a major, international corporation. I think you and I are being shorted.

Big time, but it also depends on the area of the country you live in. Pay in the midwest is a lot lower for example, but the cost of living is a lot lower as well, whereas in Silicon Valley, it is not unheard of for people to make close to $100/hour (although that is somewhat rarer).

$100/hr comes out to about $200k/yr. Only the developers at the top echelon make that kind of money.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Multicursors are one of these things that you don't understand the use for, until you start using them, at which point you can never go back. In order to understand what they do, just have a look at all six gifs on this page: http://www.sublimetext.com/ . And sorry, but if you don't know about multicursors, I'm not sure whether you get what I mean with "Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into…

gif1: It seems the multiple-cursors package does this, though I don't quite see the point when you have regex-replace. gif2: I typically do this kind of stuff with CUA-rectangles: http://trey-jackson.blogspot.no/2008/10/emacs-tip-26-cua-mod... Looks about the same. gif3: looks like M-x, though there are newer alternatives to M-x like smex that do more fancy matching: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Smex I feel like I'…

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