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Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by freehunter »

conesus wrote: post #87

Adblock is the #1 culprit for bugs on NewsBlur. I get at least one report a day where some functionality is broken (sharing stories, saving stories, loading a user's feed list, etc). First thing I do now is ask them to disable Adblock. Doesn't even matter if they've told me if they have Adblock installed. I just assume if some random functionality is broken on my single-page site, it's Adblock's fault. I suppose I sh…

As an Adblock user, I always assume that any errors on any site are the result of Adblock, and my first troubleshooting step is to turn it off. It almost always is.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by throwaway2048 »

mhaymo wrote: post #83
zz1 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but whitelist is supposed to be for unobtrusive and not tracking ads. Then Google pays and… it is on whitelist! I cannot help but think that by using ABP instead of Adblock Edge you are giving ABP developers means to blackmail advertising companies. And not getting the protection you want in the first place.

That's not my understanding of how it works. You cannot pay to get obtrusive or tracking ads on the whitelist. If you are a large company (how exactly that's defined isn't clear), you need to pay to get your unobtrusive ads whitelisted. https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads

Google ads are tracking ads, and the ability to track is not listed as an unacceptable criterion.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by discardorama »

I wouldn't mind ads if they didn't completely destroy the viewing experience on many sites. From the long load times (oftentimes the browser rendering will hang because some stupid JS from an ad server has trouble loading), to the distracting ads, it's a huge mess. That is why I use Ad Blocking.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by [deleted] »

ntaso wrote: post #99
heromat wrote: post #63

He surely just forgot to mention that Google allegedly payed 25 million € to Eyeo GmbH, the company behind Adblock Plus, in order to participate in the "acceptable ads" program, a "feature" which is turned on by default and allows users to "surf more comfortably". And that he is (or at least was) one of the directors. I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing",…

Story behind it: AdBlock Plus is installed on an extremely large sum of devices in Germany. I read somewhere close to 25% with non-technical users (!) and 50% among technical users. What they basically did is to approach companies like newspapers (Spiegel Online) and told them: Look, if you pay $LARGE_SUM, we will whitelist you. Otherwise, since 25-50% of Germans use our software, your advertisement won't make you mu…

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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by webwanderings »

gorhill wrote: post #96
webwanderings wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has anyone here replaced Adblock+ and Ghostery with only uBlock? I'd prefer least minimum extensions when possible. Does uBlock provides what Ghostery does? Or do I have to get SwitchBoard to have the Ghostery alternative?

I run benchmarks to drive development. So you may want to look once in a while at that page: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/%C2%B5Block-and-other... The raw data is published at the top as a spreadsheet, and from it you could see what one blocks that another didn't block or vice versa. So using the raw data of the latest benchmark, here is the diff: http://www.diffchecker.com/ibszp9gf Of course, this is for t…

Hey, thanks for your comment. You are the author of both of these extensions. Nice.

You certainly appear to have a winner of a service. However, it already appears to be complicated to go through the list of options in uBlock (what is checked and not checked by default - I will need time to understand).

I like how uBlock is running and your efforts, but it can possibly use some help in simplifying for typical average users, who should also use this (Ghostery is a winner in this regard with their wizard and simplified setup).

Edit: The two things I like in Ghostery: ability to selectively enable the individual blocked item; and be able to see the list of items being blocked.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by radley »

heromat wrote: post #63

He surely just forgot to mention that Google allegedly payed 25 million € to Eyeo GmbH, the company behind Adblock Plus, in order to participate in the "acceptable ads" program, a "feature" which is turned on by default and allows users to "surf more comfortably". And that he is (or at least was) one of the directors. I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing",…

AdBlock Plus sold out. Google's Sponsored features continue to be automatically white-listed as part of that deal, even when "acceptable ads" is not selected. You can't block them using Element Hiding Helper.

AdBlock Edge is the only true ad blocker:

http://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1mcsko/adblock_edge...

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by eli »

conesus wrote: post #87

Adblock is the #1 culprit for bugs on NewsBlur. I get at least one report a day where some functionality is broken (sharing stories, saving stories, loading a user's feed list, etc). First thing I do now is ask them to disable Adblock. Doesn't even matter if they've told me if they have Adblock installed. I just assume if some random functionality is broken on my single-page site, it's Adblock's fault. I suppose I sh…

I wrote a quick and dirty AdBlock detector a while back: https://github.com/elidickinson/ad-block-test

Haven't looked at that code in a while. It probably needs some updating, but the core idea is simple: create something that looks like an ad and then check if it's still visible.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by gergles »

alphakappa wrote: post #67
modzoo wrote: post #46

THE POINT OF THE AD BLOCKER IS TO BLOCK ADS. ITS NOT UP FOR DEBATE. THE AUTHORS OF BOTH ARE BEING DISINGENUOUS. its like supplying weapons to both sides of a war. and guys cut the "internet needs ads" crap. i have a couple of businesses and apps and make a profit because people value them and value the support i provide for them and recommend them. kind of like why hackernews works -- its legit recommendations, not s…

How exactly would a website like reddit monetize itself without ads? Donations? Or for that matter, how would HackerNews itself exist (without a YC parent) if getting users to subscribe was not an option?

https://ssl.reddit.com/gold

Probably like that...?

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