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“You're not allowed science any more”
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#162> You've had the opportunity to read the facts and the education to be able to analyse them, yet you have consistently chosen not to.
Perhaps if doctors understood the facts better, and could explain them better, this wouldn't be a problem:
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#163If only there was a way to outsource all decision making to an over-arching centralized authority to make all decisions for us. That entity would have all our best interests at heart and make the tough decisions for us. It would be auch a weight off my shoulders of I didn't have to think anymore. I would even be willing to pay 20-30 percent of my paycheck to it, just so it could help me stay safe. What would we call…
You can give a medically informed body that understands the issues much more deeply some authority over public health policy, while still being able to think about those issues if you're interested. They wouldn't make all decisions for you, just those that have such a broad and important impact to society as a whole that irresponsible individuals wouldn't make choices that could have a net effect of significantly har…
Personal freedom, to me, is worth the price of possible death or illness due to large swaths of the population not being vaccinated.
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#164Pretty funny wish fulfillment where someone forces their own views on others. I fully support vaccination, but don't support this.
Don't support what? Mandatory vaccination?
I don't support mandatory vaccination for the same reason I don't support the drug war. No government has the right to tell me what I can or cannot put into my body. Simple as that.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't support what? Mandatory vaccination?
I don't support mandatory vaccination for the same reason I don't support the drug war. No government has the right to tell me what I can or cannot put into my body. Simple as that.
But vaccination is a public health issue. You endanger others by not getting vaccinated, which is why for instance kids have to be vaccinated before they are allowed to go to school. I am much in agreement with personal liberty but part of the social contract is to take these preventative steps to improve the quality of life in our society.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't support mandatory vaccination for the same reason I don't support the drug war. No government has the right to tell me what I can or cannot put into my body. Simple as that.
But vaccination is a public health issue. You endanger others by not getting vaccinated, which is why for instance kids have to be vaccinated before they are allowed to go to school. I am much in agreement with personal liberty but part of the social contract is to take these preventative steps to improve the quality of life in our society.
Not letting kids into school is already a good way to handle this issue. It ensures that the majority will decide to be vaccinated. I'm fine with the way it is.
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#167Quick question: how many of you are against the flood of illegal immigrants making their way into the US? If you're worried about killing herd immunity, you should really be voicing your discontent over both the GOP and Democrat parties encouraging this with their amnesty plans. Here's just one incident of an illegal bringing disease into the US: http://news.yahoo.com/arrest-warrant-issued-man-tuberculosis...
Nice strawman, "if you're against X you MUST be against Y". What really matters is the cost-to-benefit ratio. A jab in the arm vs denying someone immigration, decide whatever you want but it's a sliding scale, not black-and-white.
so I'd take that as you're anti-anti-vaxer, but pro illegal aliens?
And nice job putting words into my mouth, I didn't say you HAD to be against Y, I said you SHOULD. And it wasn't denying immigration I was talking about, it was illegal aliens. Different words mean different things.
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#168Quick question: how many of you are against the flood of illegal immigrants making their way into the US? If you're worried about killing herd immunity, you should really be voicing your discontent over both the GOP and Democrat parties encouraging this with their amnesty plans. Here's just one incident of an illegal bringing disease into the US: http://news.yahoo.com/arrest-warrant-issued-man-tuberculosis...
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent l…
A beautiful poem, one that many a legal immigrant saw upon entering the US as they began inprocessing through the Ellis Island immigration station. One that the illegal aliens will not see as they illicitly cross our border, seeking to evade what agents we have stationed there.
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alternate theory: "Poor families" are more likely to be aware (either directly or "institutionally") of the impact of the various preventable diseases or conditions. Reminds of of a Bujold quote. The character is referring to how over time people forget how hard things were: > "They like to play dress-up and pretend being [noble-class] ladies of old, rescued from menace by romantic [noble-class] youths. For some reas…
Alternate theory 2: "Rich families" are more likely to have seen that there is reason to distrust the government and medical establisments.
Poor families trust the government, you say?
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent l…
A beautiful poem, one that many a legal immigrant saw upon entering the US as they began inprocessing through the Ellis Island immigration station. One that the illegal aliens will not see as they illicitly cross our border, seeking to evade what agents we have stationed there.
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