Maybe because I chose a laptop specifically for use with Linux (ThinkPad T530), but it works perfectly. Everything. Even WiFi, sound, suspend, Fn keys, fingerprint reader, everything.
The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
I haven't had trouble with printing in years- in fact, I can basically print on everything with no configuration, and people with OS X and Windows laptops seem to have lots of problems.
While this is another 'Well, works for me" kind of response, I've never had a problem printing from a laptop with OS X. Windows, yes. But OS X generally just finds the printer and goes, with no configuration necessary at all. Aren't most Linux distributions still using CUPS, the system OS X uses under the hood? (More on topic for the actual post here, the last couple of times I've tried to install Linux on a laptop g…
I was just printing on someone else's computer running barebones Lubuntu. I found that going to localhost:631 (cups web admin) has all the settings needed to add the printer, which came up as "Detected network printers". I think the OSX one has a GUI frontend for that. I just tested the GNOME gui on my laptop, it doesn't seem to detect the printer but localhost:631 does.
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#223A main reason to use Apple products is that the hardware and software are always bundled and guaranteed to work together without any additional tweaking or messing around. You turn it on and it just works. Both Windows and Linux suffer from the problem of attempting to support n different hardware configurations in a decentralized fashion, and neither has solved it very well.
Pretty sure you can't ship a product that doesn't work on Windows. I'm just saiyan'
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
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It's opaque on Linux, but that's not the big problem. It's opaque on OS X and Windows as well, but nobody cares because it works . I wonder if we'll eventually get the kind of stability that we currently have with ethernet drivers... once the speeds are high enough that we stop upgrading, once the chips go into long-term production instead of changing every few years, once things settle down...
I disagree. It's possible to get advanced output from various command line tools in Linux, and it's possible to get networking information. It's much more difficult to do that on other OSs, especially Windows. I loathe debugging network troubles in Windows, because there is essentially no information. OS X has most of your standard tools, though some in some odd places, e.g., printing the routing table not being done…
airport -s is incredibly important in setting up roaming correctly with heterogeneous APs. You absolutely want SECURITY column to be identical, else devices won't roam.
> There's no way I'll remember it
I have history(1) and a symlink in a toolbox git repo.
> you likely can't Google it
"!g OSX airport command" works fine
> route
I found netstat -r is the most "Unix-portable" way of querying the routing table (Windows route is a peculiar beast anyway). route is deprecated on linux in favor of ip route.
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
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Which is to say, you know, the one Dell laptop and the System76 behemoths. So, yeah, two options out of ... thousands. And, research or not, _no_ hardware really, fully supports linux (or, vice-versa). Which is sort of the point of this whole thread.
Zareason is the bees knees: http://zareason.com/shop/UltraLap-440.html They'll ship with the distro of your choice preinstalled, and I've had wonderful experience with their support (where they suggested a kernel upgrade for me a few versions higher than what was shipping with my preferred distro.) Every model except the UltraLap comes with a mini-screwdriver and encouragement to use it. The UltraLap is their competi…
Awesome, did not know about them. Thanks!
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
Inconsistency - again this is not about Ctrl c but rather some (any) consistency. I truly envy the OSX guys, their consistency P.S. google for IBM CUA . Linux is supposed to follow it, but doesn't. Macvim is more consistent than gvim !
Every time I use OSX or Windows I catch myself marking a portion of text and trying to paste with middle mouse button.
good point. Except... all new laptops are coming without a middle mouse button.
This is the trend in all the latest Thinkpads as well a lot of other computers (I know of Asus and Acer as well).
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#227I think a big portion of the problems Linux has these days is how unbelievably bloated and overconvulated distributions have become. Every single function has three, four or more ways to do the same thing, often with different results. When trying to get something working I never know if I should run the /etc/init.d script, restart the service manually, edit a config file, use the command line config until or use the…
I tried setting proxy configuration so that apt-get would work with my employer's proxy. I put my (plain-text) username and password into a dozen different configuration files before it finally worked. Then I changed my password, and couldn't remember where all I had put my credentials in. I ended up having to reinstall the whole OS because I couldn't figure out how to undo the proxy settings that took me forever to…
Yes, apt ignoring standard HTTP_PROXY settings by default is a shame!
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
The plural of anecdote is not data, though.
> The plural of anecdote is not data, though. Of course it is. What do you think data comprises? It's just an aggregation of anecdotes.
Are you really sure? Data is supposed to have been collected by some method, not just randomly waiting in forums for complains about something.
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#229I have 3 Linux laptops in the house. One with Intel running Ubuntu, another with Broadcom running Fedora and the third with a Prism interface running CentOS 6. All three work flawlessly. We also have 3 Macbooks, a white one, a Pro 13 and a Retina 13. All three work flawlessly with our Wi-fi. My wife had a corporate-issued HP laptop running Windows 7. It connected to our wireless once or twice over a year. I had a net…
Win8.1 is even better, we had some colleagues change their simple DSL modems versus routers (which is better anyway, but...) because it's just not possible to use a DSL modem reliably with Win8.1!
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