It's incredibly sad how shoddy modern wifi can be, and a testament to the importance of networking that flaky wifi can render a computer useless.
The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
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Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#122Not much better on OS X ... my brand new laptop with the most current OS X is totally unreliable about connecting to wi-fi on wake from sleep. Even on reboot half the time it fails. Maybe different cause from that highlighted by the OP's article ... but in the end not much better situation.
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#123One of a handful reasons I don't have Linux on my laptop anymore, even though I like so many things about Linux so much more. I'm not sure about this point, though: > Connection time. I dislike OS X pretty deeply and think that many of its technical merits are way overblown, but it's got one thing going for it; it connects to an AP fast. I remember Linux being slow (and unreliable) at this, but OSX is pretty slow too…
I've noticed that on my OSX macbook the connection time is slow, but it seems to connect before you log in if it's asleep. I think Apple uses tricks like this to make it seem much faster.
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have only used Linux for the last 12 years. I use a thinkpad in an office full of macs and HP printers and 5ghz networks. None of it works as seamlessly as on a Mac. I'm pretty comfortable compiling my custom kernels, so I'm more than the average Joe trying to setup networking. There is still a reason why every Linux install asks you to explicitly select that you want mp3 codecs insralled. Flash is not installed by…
"There is still a reason why every Linux install asks you to explicitly select that you want mp3 codecs insralled." Ubuntu is the only installer I know of that does this...
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#125Copy paste, printing and networking. Biggest usability misses of Linux. I don't consider these technical issues...but usability issues. Things like insisting on keeping the install ISO at 750 mb, leaves seamless driver support out of the todo list because...hey, there are no drivers anyway. I'm really surprised there is not a paid version of Linux with these features baked in. I would GLADLY pay for all these (as wel…
Why is copy-paste broken? I never had issues. I don't have issues anymore with printing and networking. I understand that this stuff is per vendor so I usually do my research before buying (I have thinkpads, and my printers are all pretty friendly). I do see many windows computer fall over when printers connect to new wireless networks, though. As for mp3, flash, isn't is as simple as enabling a non-free repository a…
I've found this to be less of a problem in modern desktop environments (especially KDE, in my experience), since most DEs nowadays feature their own clipboard/buffer management.
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#126I have 3 Linux laptops in the house. One with Intel running Ubuntu, another with Broadcom running Fedora and the third with a Prism interface running CentOS 6. All three work flawlessly. We also have 3 Macbooks, a white one, a Pro 13 and a Retina 13. All three work flawlessly with our Wi-fi. My wife had a corporate-issued HP laptop running Windows 7. It connected to our wireless once or twice over a year. I had a net…
I've used exclusively linux at home, for the last 6 years (except at work), and I did find that some of the nano wi-fi USB things (necessary for rPi) don't work.
("Submit a bug", "Have you tried...", "What does [some command] say?", "It's the fault of the manufacturers" etc.)
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
PulseAudio still requires you to be a hacker to get sound over network - something it promised to do well, but oh doesnt.
If you aren't blessed with luck, one might say that PulseAudio still requires you to be a hacker to get sound. Over and over again. Every time you think it's fixed for good, it'll prove you wrong.
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#128 - wireless chips are obscure and buggy
- audio chips are obscure and buggy
I wish for some organized effort to bring a few set of open hardware chips to replace proprietary ones that seem to only work easily on proprietary OSes.That would complement the work of guys like bunnie huang (novena laptop) and would let the linux world enjoy sound hardware for (allegedly) sound software.
Maybe that's just a pipe dream and the complexity emerge whether or not it's open.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Copy paste Out of curiosity, what do you feel is bad about copy-pasting under linux? It's inconsistent, but it's still the best copy-paste functionality I've experienced so far on any operating system. It'd be nice if all applications understood the dual clipboard, and if terminal applications behaved a bit better, but still.. by far the best of any OS as far as I'm concerned.
Inconsistency - again this is not about Ctrl c but rather some (any) consistency. I truly envy the OSX guys, their consistency P.S. google for IBM CUA . Linux is supposed to follow it, but doesn't. Macvim is more consistent than gvim !
Re: The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi
#130I kind of feel like some user facing stuff on linux gets developed not until it's in a good or perfect state but until it's bearable. You can work with the GUIs for instance, but somehow they still feel very sluggish
* Which toolkit is used (if any). Tk-based apps seem to be very quick, since Tk is pretty spartan and basic. GTK-based apps are okay. QT apps aren't quite as OK. Pure-X apps are zippy, but they're ugly as heck.
* Which WM/DE you're using. GNOME3 and its relatives (Cinnamon, Unity?) are sluggish as heck. KDE and GNOME2/MATE are much more tolerable, with or without desktop effects. (Open|Black|Flux)box are zippy, as are cwm, Emerillon, WindowManager, and virtually all of the tiling WMs. Enlightenment is zippy sometimes, but I don't think I've ever managed to get it to run without crashing back to a login screen within 5 minutes of use.
One curious thing I've noticed is that system resources have absolutely no bearing on UI zippiness. Whether I'm on a PowerBook with 512MB of RAM or a gaming rig with some Intel Core i9-867-5309-Quakemaster-Ludicrous-Gibs-Edition-whatever and terabytes of RAM with some NVidia GeFarce GTXXX 5-million-CUDA-core 8GB SLI monstrosity of a video card with hardware-accelerated 3D grass rendering, GNOME will always act like it's running on a God-damn ENIAC.