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Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...

Breaking: people invest money in things that interest or could benefit them. I can see what you're saying but your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations may be clouding your reasoning.

"your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations" What do you know about my opinions?

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Be very careful with probiotics; just loading your system with random strains of bacteria from your local health food store can have serious consequences. I have IBS and an anxiety disorder that had been in remission for years. I tried Primadophilus Optima and it wrecked me. I went from a mild IBS-C to severe IBS-D, and my panic attacks came back with an intensity unlike anything I've ever experienced. I don't doubt…

I had IBS-D from about the age of 10 to the age of 29. I'm 42 now. What changed for me 13 years ago is that I learned that humans require eating dietary fiber and changed my diet to accomplish that. I eat about 40 grams of dietary fiber and drink at least a gallon of water every day. It actually takes work to reach this goal, but the plus side is that once I started doing this I have had no symptoms of IBS for the pa…

Wow, that's a pretty amazing amount of fiber and a great success story. I would caution applying this advice to everyone, though. As anyone who has a lot of intestinal inflammation can tell you very quickly: fiber is like steel wool dragging through there. Ouch! I think this especially highlights how IBS is a range of causes/symptoms, not one distinct disorder.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

#33
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...

Breaking: people invest money in things that interest or could benefit them. I can see what you're saying but your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations may be clouding your reasoning.

@Paul_Dessert: you don't try especially hard to hide them.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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So? Danone makes yogurts with probiotics. I think they might be interested in knowing if there is any value to a diet mood connection. If you would take your head out of the sand you'd know that lots of research is funded by industry and that's not necessarily bad.

Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...

First of all, they acknowledged the conflict of interest.

Are you suggesting, based on zero evidence, that their findings were somehow fabricated - a claim that if true would ruin the careers and lives of the scientists at hand?

While not unthinkable, it is a type of conspiracy theory thought. Should you have a problem with their methods, data acquisition, etc etc. then it would be a completely different story, but to dismiss something based on some sort of belief is very unscientific.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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post #24
post #4

Be very careful with probiotics; just loading your system with random strains of bacteria from your local health food store can have serious consequences. I have IBS and an anxiety disorder that had been in remission for years. I tried Primadophilus Optima and it wrecked me. I went from a mild IBS-C to severe IBS-D, and my panic attacks came back with an intensity unlike anything I've ever experienced. I don't doubt…

I had IBS-D from about the age of 10 to the age of 29. I'm 42 now. What changed for me 13 years ago is that I learned that humans require eating dietary fiber and changed my diet to accomplish that. I eat about 40 grams of dietary fiber and drink at least a gallon of water every day. It actually takes work to reach this goal, but the plus side is that once I started doing this I have had no symptoms of IBS for the pa…

Do you have another other dietary restrictions, other than the fiber and water? Just curious. Thanks.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Be very careful with probiotics; just loading your system with random strains of bacteria from your local health food store can have serious consequences. I have IBS and an anxiety disorder that had been in remission for years. I tried Primadophilus Optima and it wrecked me. I went from a mild IBS-C to severe IBS-D, and my panic attacks came back with an intensity unlike anything I've ever experienced. I don't doubt…

IBS seems like the doctors way of saying "We don't know what your problem is". Doctors told me I had IBS for 10 years, then a friend suggested to stop eating wheat, and 95% of my symptoms went away. I'm actually about to start testing a FODMAP diet to see if I can improve my health any further. Have you tried anything to improve your health, or did you just accept the IBS diagnosis? I only ask because I've seen no re…

A "syndrome" is a classification of related signs and symptoms without relating them to a single underlying cause, so yeah, that's what it means. As more is learned about the causes, different disorders can be removed from the syndrome.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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I wonder if there's a strong correlation between those who suffer IBS and people working in this industry. Seems to me like the mentality to continually push forward and overwork/stress ourselves can only contribute to poorer health both mentally and physically. Personally I suffer from.. Hmm, I'd say IBS-D based on the classifications mentioned here, although my symptoms are fairly mild (however, very consistent - ~5 years and counting..) save for a few more painful symptoms every now and again. There was an article on here last week talking about the strong correlation between our guts and our brain as well. These articles seem to gain a lot of popularity here on HN, which makes me think that this problem is more wide spread than it appears (perhaps just amongst HNers)

I'll report that I too have personally experienced a strong link between my gut and my mental state (I occasionally suffer mild panic attacks). I'm tired of having bowel problems - if anyone has any suggestions that have worked for them I'm open to hearing them (and I'm sure there's plenty of people reading who too are looking for suggestions). I've been working on removing wheat from my diet - I can't speak to the effectiveness yet as I've only just begun.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Bacteria feed on nutrients we ingest with our food, and like people, bacteria don't use everything they eat. Whatever doesn't fuel their growth and reproduction, the bacteria expel as waste. That waste gets into the blood and probably into the brain, changing its chemistry. If this theory is correct, does it mean that a drastic change in diet might change a person's behavior? I'm imagining a future where people match…

According to Wikipedia, Carl Pfeiffer[1] researched mental illnesses, mainly schizophrenia, from the point of brain chemistry imbalances and dietary changes to alter it.

The theory is, that there are chemical imbalances with patient's brain chemistry which can be influenced by dietary means. There's a book called Nutrient Power[2] which goes on about this theory and Pfeiffer. I haven't read it, but admittedly it sounds interesting. But then again, maybe it's all woowoo (It's rated as #1 bestseller in homeopathy medicine by Amazon, go figure).

Then again, for example many vitamin deficiencies alter mood and general "energy levels", and for example fish oil (or omega-3 fatty acids), according to Examine.com's[3] user-collaborated round-up, shows some effects on mental well-being, more on the physical functioning of the body though.

Be skeptical.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Pfeiffer_%28pharmacologis... 2: http://www.amazon.com/Nutrient-Power-Heal-Biochemistry-Brain... 3: http://examine.com/supplements/Fish+Oil/

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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But which came first, the intestinal issue or the mental health condition? These studies seem to begin with an assumption that the physical ailment arises first. What if it's not the case... What if that assumption is just the opposite, and it's the mental health issue impacting the physical well-being?
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