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Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by bignaj »

erichmond wrote: post #19
jmhain wrote: post #4

Be very careful with probiotics; just loading your system with random strains of bacteria from your local health food store can have serious consequences. I have IBS and an anxiety disorder that had been in remission for years. I tried Primadophilus Optima and it wrecked me. I went from a mild IBS-C to severe IBS-D, and my panic attacks came back with an intensity unlike anything I've ever experienced. I don't doubt…

IBS seems like the doctors way of saying "We don't know what your problem is". Doctors told me I had IBS for 10 years, then a friend suggested to stop eating wheat, and 95% of my symptoms went away. I'm actually about to start testing a FODMAP diet to see if I can improve my health any further. Have you tried anything to improve your health, or did you just accept the IBS diagnosis? I only ask because I've seen no re…

I have Crohn's and I did the FODMAP diet when I had very severe symptoms. What I found: it does actually work and remediated a lot of my severe abdominal pain centered around eating (in conjunction with medication) BUT... I also found it absolutely miserable on its own. I think Soylent might be more appetizing to me by an order of magnitude. Good luck!

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by learc83 »

erichmond wrote: post #19
jmhain wrote: post #4

Be very careful with probiotics; just loading your system with random strains of bacteria from your local health food store can have serious consequences. I have IBS and an anxiety disorder that had been in remission for years. I tried Primadophilus Optima and it wrecked me. I went from a mild IBS-C to severe IBS-D, and my panic attacks came back with an intensity unlike anything I've ever experienced. I don't doubt…

IBS seems like the doctors way of saying "We don't know what your problem is". Doctors told me I had IBS for 10 years, then a friend suggested to stop eating wheat, and 95% of my symptoms went away. I'm actually about to start testing a FODMAP diet to see if I can improve my health any further. Have you tried anything to improve your health, or did you just accept the IBS diagnosis? I only ask because I've seen no re…

Have you been tested for Coeliac disease?

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by Paul_Dessert »

bignaj wrote: post #20
Paul_Dessert wrote: post #8

Although I see a connection, I stopped taking this article seriously when I read this sentence: "Their study, published last year, was funded in part by Danone Research, a division of multinational food company Danone."

So? Danone makes yogurts with probiotics. I think they might be interested in knowing if there is any value to a diet mood connection. If you would take your head out of the sand you'd know that lots of research is funded by industry and that's not necessarily bad.

Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by 300bps »

jmhain wrote: post #4

Be very careful with probiotics; just loading your system with random strains of bacteria from your local health food store can have serious consequences. I have IBS and an anxiety disorder that had been in remission for years. I tried Primadophilus Optima and it wrecked me. I went from a mild IBS-C to severe IBS-D, and my panic attacks came back with an intensity unlike anything I've ever experienced. I don't doubt…

I had IBS-D from about the age of 10 to the age of 29. I'm 42 now. What changed for me 13 years ago is that I learned that humans require eating dietary fiber and changed my diet to accomplish that.

I eat about 40 grams of dietary fiber and drink at least a gallon of water every day. It actually takes work to reach this goal, but the plus side is that once I started doing this I have had no symptoms of IBS for the past 13 years.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by graeme »

bignaj wrote: post #21
erichmond wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IBS seems like the doctors way of saying "We don't know what your problem is". Doctors told me I had IBS for 10 years, then a friend suggested to stop eating wheat, and 95% of my symptoms went away. I'm actually about to start testing a FODMAP diet to see if I can improve my health any further. Have you tried anything to improve your health, or did you just accept the IBS diagnosis? I only ask because I've seen no re…

I have Crohn's and I did the FODMAP diet when I had very severe symptoms. What I found: it does actually work and remediated a lot of my severe abdominal pain centered around eating (in conjunction with medication) BUT... I also found it absolutely miserable on its own. I think Soylent might be more appetizing to me by an order of magnitude. Good luck!

What did you find miserable about it? Elimination of certain foods or something part of what you were actually eating?

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by bignaj »

Paul_Dessert wrote: post #23
bignaj wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So? Danone makes yogurts with probiotics. I think they might be interested in knowing if there is any value to a diet mood connection. If you would take your head out of the sand you'd know that lots of research is funded by industry and that's not necessarily bad.

Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...

Breaking: people invest money in things that interest or could benefit them. I can see what you're saying but your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations may be clouding your reasoning.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by angersock »

Paul_Dessert wrote: post #23
bignaj wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So? Danone makes yogurts with probiotics. I think they might be interested in knowing if there is any value to a diet mood connection. If you would take your head out of the sand you'd know that lots of research is funded by industry and that's not necessarily bad.

Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...

Just because they have a special interest doesn't mean that there is a conflict of interest. You can still get useful science from people that are hoping for a particular outcome.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by bignaj »

bignaj wrote: post #21
erichmond wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IBS seems like the doctors way of saying "We don't know what your problem is". Doctors told me I had IBS for 10 years, then a friend suggested to stop eating wheat, and 95% of my symptoms went away. I'm actually about to start testing a FODMAP diet to see if I can improve my health any further. Have you tried anything to improve your health, or did you just accept the IBS diagnosis? I only ask because I've seen no re…

I have Crohn's and I did the FODMAP diet when I had very severe symptoms. What I found: it does actually work and remediated a lot of my severe abdominal pain centered around eating (in conjunction with medication) BUT... I also found it absolutely miserable on its own. I think Soylent might be more appetizing to me by an order of magnitude. Good luck!

@Graeme (can't reply double-nested): I just found it to be very bland, boring and depressing. Chicken and rice, rice and chicken, tuna, rice crackers, blah. Go to the printer room in your office and start chewing on the printer paper/some cardboard in there. That's about how tasty the FODMAP diet is after about a week. It's even harder socially when you are restricted from basically everything on the menu. I guess your mileage may vary but those are my personal thoughts. I did Low FODMAP for about 2 months and by necessity (staying out of the urgent care/emergency room), not really by choice.

Re: Intestinal bacteria may influence our moods

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Post by chippy »

bignaj wrote: post #20
Paul_Dessert wrote: post #8

Although I see a connection, I stopped taking this article seriously when I read this sentence: "Their study, published last year, was funded in part by Danone Research, a division of multinational food company Danone."

So? Danone makes yogurts with probiotics. I think they might be interested in knowing if there is any value to a diet mood connection. If you would take your head out of the sand you'd know that lots of research is funded by industry and that's not necessarily bad.

but which research is favoured, published and promoted?
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