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Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by pdenya »

Crito wrote: post #58
bcohen5055 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sound is a very objective measurement so I won't go ahead and say that beats sounds "better" or "worse". However (I can't seem to find the link now) on many audiophile forums Beats have been measured to skew to better frequency response in the low range. Therefore they will sound more thumpy but without warm mids and crisp highs. Beats has engineered their headphones this way for a specific marketing demographic, I j…

That may be the case, but consider that most consumers are probably currently using the I'll continue to recommend sennheiser over Beats, but I think the primary objection to beats should be their cost, not their quality.

Those are $30 headphones and I _love_ them. I use headphones 10 hours a day and it's always the apple ones. So comfortable, just the right amount of noise-canceling so I don't have to remove them to talk to people, and they sound good to me.

Beats are also very comfortable. Not much is said on headphone comfort in reviews and comparisons but it's very important for me.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by madeofpalk »

Crito wrote: post #58
bcohen5055 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sound is a very objective measurement so I won't go ahead and say that beats sounds "better" or "worse". However (I can't seem to find the link now) on many audiophile forums Beats have been measured to skew to better frequency response in the low range. Therefore they will sound more thumpy but without warm mids and crisp highs. Beats has engineered their headphones this way for a specific marketing demographic, I j…

That may be the case, but consider that most consumers are probably currently using the I'll continue to recommend sennheiser over Beats, but I think the primary objection to beats should be their cost, not their quality.

This is a very important thing to remember: people always talk about how 'audiophiles' hate Beats headphones and would recommend a better-sounding, worse-looking and sometimes more expensive option.

The people buying Beats are people upgrading from their free headphones that came bundled with their phone, or the $15 ones they picked up at the supermarket.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by madeofpalk »

tomsthumb wrote: post #75
Crito wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sound on Beats is actually good; much better than what most people have with their headphones so most users will experience an improvement by switching to them. The problem is that the cost:sound ratio is poor; you can find cheaper headphones with the same quality and you can find much better headphones for the same price.

You can find much better quality headphones for _much_ less. 90$ HD-280 pro's sound better than 300$ Beats..

Compare the HD-280 pro to Beats headphones, from an aesthetics point of view.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by threeseed »

tptacek wrote: post #74
threeseed wrote: post #71

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A lot of people, including myself, like Apple products less so for the design and more for the actual technical qualities. They make the best laptops by far. The operating system marries UNIX with ease of use like nothing before. There is genuine attention to detail in their software that Microsoft or Ubuntu simply doesn't have. I am sick to death of idiots like you who dismiss my choice as being "fashionable".

All you had to do was stop before writing that last sentence, and your comment could have been taken seriously. There's still time to edit it (if you do, my comment won't make any sense anymore, and I'll kill it).

No I won't edit it. Painting someone's decision as "fashionable" is a form of condescension. It's hilarious that HN doesn't see this kind of behaviour as a personal attack and downvote accordingly.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by pessimizer »

The beats acquisition is just Apple shedding the idea that it's a technology company, and adding more prole-luxury fashion items to its lineup. Apple + Nike merger anyone?

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by madeofpalk »

bwy wrote: post #4
jaynos wrote: post #3

I find it hard to believe that apple couldn't make additional colors if they wanted. I don't think it's a lack of technological know how. They could pick that up without acquiring a entire additional company. Limited colors on the iphone or ipod make sense. For the most part, it's an item that stays in your pocket. I'm sure some people care about additional design choices, but most people solve this by buying a case…

I have to agree somewhat with this comment. In particular, is handling 60 SKU's really a huge problem with technology and management nowadays? It's a pity there's so much focus on small details like that and the color selection, because that's really not the main point, which the article does touch on - the two companies understand and heavily influence the consumer market and fashion, so the partnership makes sense.…

> In particular, is handling 60 SKU's really a huge problem with technology and management nowadays?

Ignoring international power-adapter variations, Apple has about 40+ different SKUs for iPad Air (factoring in colour, capacity and cellular variants)

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

I started travelling a lot and I wanted a bluetooth pair of headphones that had active noise cancelling. Beats was the only option that ticked off all of my needs and didn't blow out the second I tried pumping even minor amounts of bass through them (I'm looking at you, Bose). I was able to even get them in matte black so they are less gaudy.

They aren't for everyone...but most of us age 70 and under would dig the sound quality on them.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by etchalon »

Crito wrote: post #78
sosborn wrote: post #76

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>Early iPods did not have a significant leg up over other MP3 players in terms of usability This is subjective, but I disagree. The click wheel was unmatched IMHO.

The click wheel was good, but it wasn't like consumers were confused by the alternatives. With PCs you could make the case that most consumers struggled to use windows at the time, but hand-held media players haven't had that problem since the 80s.

The problem with the alternatives wasn't that they were "confusing". They were just bad.

I remember trying to find a song on my Rio. It took forever. It was pointless. I came to the conclusion my best bet was to build Playlists, on my computer, and use those.

The iPod's interface made finding songs, artists, albums, etc effortless.

Just because an interface isn't confusing doesn't mean it's any good.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by eflowers »

bcohen5055 wrote: post #54
Crito wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sound on Beats is actually good; much better than what most people have with their headphones so most users will experience an improvement by switching to them. The problem is that the cost:sound ratio is poor; you can find cheaper headphones with the same quality and you can find much better headphones for the same price.

Sound is a very objective measurement so I won't go ahead and say that beats sounds "better" or "worse". However (I can't seem to find the link now) on many audiophile forums Beats have been measured to skew to better frequency response in the low range. Therefore they will sound more thumpy but without warm mids and crisp highs. Beats has engineered their headphones this way for a specific marketing demographic, I j…

The skew is exactly what Dr. Dre's fans, and other pop fans, want. They are made by a former gangsta rapper turned pop rapper. Who can listen to Dre without a trio of 12" subs rumbling their car or house or the dancefloor?

I have had Beats for 2.5 years. I like a lot of rap, and rap sounds awesome. Nicer headphones may have a better sound for a more broad range of music - but they don't replicate the 808's and fat basslines on Novation.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

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Post by tptacek »

threeseed wrote: post #84
tptacek wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All you had to do was stop before writing that last sentence, and your comment could have been taken seriously. There's still time to edit it (if you do, my comment won't make any sense anymore, and I'll kill it).

No I won't edit it. Painting someone's decision as "fashionable" is a form of condescension. It's hilarious that HN doesn't see this kind of behaviour as a personal attack and downvote accordingly.

I found the comment condescending too, but found a way to reply to it that didn't involve spreading poison on the thread. You didn't. You're going to be happier on HN if you can internalize the idea that direct personal attacks are counterproductive. You did a disservice to your own argument.
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