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Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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Someone should make a plugin that actively sends facebook false tracking information along with your own.

Now that's a funny idea. Instead of just opting out you can poison the tracking info pool which basically invalidates any of the data they get even the legitimate stuff.

And thereby forcing them to try figure out "who" is creating the poison data, which seems like quite a difficult problem to solve.

*Edit:typo.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's the tracking you'd like to avoid, don't use ad blockers! They're the wrong tool for the job. They're for blocking ads. So they'll block ads that are not leaking your info (for your use case, a false positive) and will not (not necessarily) block other means by which you're being tracked (for your use case, a false negative). Use something like RequestPolicy ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/req…

So don't use Adblock Plus because it works too well? And if theres false positives with either the Adblock or Tracking lists it comes with whitelists get around certain website bugs.

No, don't use Adblock Plus because it blocks the wrong thing (if you're actually wanting to protect your privacy vs just avoid ads). You want to avoid tracking, so you avoid ads... leaving all the other methods of tracking out there, and blocking ads which don't track you at all.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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post #33
post #17

Someone should make a plugin that actively sends facebook false tracking information along with your own.

I was seriously considering to make a browser plugin which would scrape pages for Google Analytics unique IDs, make a local database of them and randomly mix them up. Like this: 0. [page visited] 1. Does the page contain GA tracking ID? no: do nothing yes: add it to the database and replace it with another randomly chosen ID from the database

Please do this!

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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post #17

Someone should make a plugin that actively sends facebook false tracking information along with your own.

Now that's a funny idea. Instead of just opting out you can poison the tracking info pool which basically invalidates any of the data they get even the legitimate stuff.

Yeah. The data could even be pooled among some users to fuzz the stats even more, the same way some people shuffle their groceries card.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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post #33
post #17

Someone should make a plugin that actively sends facebook false tracking information along with your own.

I was seriously considering to make a browser plugin which would scrape pages for Google Analytics unique IDs, make a local database of them and randomly mix them up. Like this: 0. [page visited] 1. Does the page contain GA tracking ID? no: do nothing yes: add it to the database and replace it with another randomly chosen ID from the database

Haha thats great. You definatly should. Hell i think i juat found a project to screw around with this weekend!

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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AdBlock Plus once blocked Google ads, till Google decided to pay them [0] to "whitelist" their ads by default. The cynical part of me sees this as a precursor for AdBlock to sign a deal with Facebook and let their ads/tracking through too, for a price of course. [0] http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/5/4496852/adblock-plus-eye-go...

AdBlock Plus wants to encourage non obtrusive advertising. Anyone can apply to have their ads/website added to the acceptable-ads whitelist. Larger companies are charged a maintenance fee. There is a single checkbox in the options to toggle the whitelist, as well as a link to filter list being used and documentation. Source: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads

Yeah, but silent tracking in the background does not seem obstructive by their definition.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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The company opted to ignore the Do Not Track setting on Web browsers ... other Internet behemoths, including Google and Yahoo, have publicly confirmed that they also ignore Do Not Track Am I the only one bothered by the silliness of "Do Not Track"? Or even worse, the EU cookie law? You have a browser that leaks all kinds of info[1] about itself, tells everyone where you came from (sends referral), takes cookies from…

I also walk around town completely uncamouflaged, voluntarily displaying my uniquely identifiable face and whatnot, and yet somehow most businesses can still restrain themselves and do not follow me around, colluding to enable each other to videotape my every step for analytics purpose.

Sure, there's some technical steps that can be taken but there's also a social or cultural dimension to what behavior is popularly accepted fro companies.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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To minimise the tracking without plugins: always login to facebook and anything that has your personal details in a "private" session or a browser you don't normally use with flash turned off (or not installed in the first place). Not perfect, but good enough for me. Of course everyone in my other browser sessions is tracking me between sites, but it isn't linked to my social profiles and such. TBH I don't really car…

I sandbox Facebook inside Firefox, its the only thing I do with that browser. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy for continuing to use the browser too, I like Mozilla.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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The company opted to ignore the Do Not Track setting on Web browsers ... other Internet behemoths, including Google and Yahoo, have publicly confirmed that they also ignore Do Not Track Am I the only one bothered by the silliness of "Do Not Track"? Or even worse, the EU cookie law? You have a browser that leaks all kinds of info[1] about itself, tells everyone where you came from (sends referral), takes cookies from…

I also walk around town completely uncamouflaged, voluntarily displaying my uniquely identifiable face and whatnot, and yet somehow most businesses can still restrain themselves and do not follow me around, colluding to enable each other to videotape my every step for analytics purpose. Sure, there's some technical steps that can be taken but there's also a social or cultural dimension to what behavior is popularly a…

Do you wear an ID around your neck? Do you walk into an establishment, introduce yourself, tell the keeper where you came from, when was the last time you visited, check in with an inter-business tracking device, and then ask them to forget all that?

This is what a browser with (or more appropriately, on) DNT is doing. Long way from camouflage.

And offline, we should also employ techniques like randomizing MAC addresses in mobile devices. Just like you lock your car even though it's illegal to jack it.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also walk around town completely uncamouflaged, voluntarily displaying my uniquely identifiable face and whatnot, and yet somehow most businesses can still restrain themselves and do not follow me around, colluding to enable each other to videotape my every step for analytics purpose. Sure, there's some technical steps that can be taken but there's also a social or cultural dimension to what behavior is popularly a…

Do you wear an ID around your neck? Do you walk into an establishment, introduce yourself, tell the keeper where you came from, when was the last time you visited, check in with an inter-business tracking device, and then ask them to forget all that? This is what a browser with (or more appropriately, on) DNT is doing. Long way from camouflage. And offline, we should also employ techniques like randomizing MAC addres…

No, that stuff only happens when I pay with my credit card, I guess.
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