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3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by thefreeman »

eli wrote: post #57
ceejayoz wrote: post #33

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Our stats show 2.3% IE8 users. We handle sites for major, general-market brands, so it's not skewed as it would be on a tech startup or something.

Our Energy/Utility industry news site has: 12% IE8 11% IE9 People should always run their own numbers. It can vary quite a bit from the internet-wide average.

Pretty off topic, but why would anyone ever stay on IE9? It means you are on > XP which means you should be able to upgrade to at least 10 I believe, if not 11. Is it just a lack of permissions to upgrade the browser combined with lazy administrators?

Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by thefreeman »

shutupalready wrote: post #73
leorocky wrote: post #44

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This website is even difficult to read on a regular desktop browser (too wide, downvoted comments increasingly impossible to read causing eye strain). I recommend using your own content script with Chrome. This may not help on your iPad but on Android you can use Firefox with your own userscript. It's the only way I can tolerate it. It would probably take a competent someone a few hours to fix the readability issues…

joblessjunkie means the original article's site. Pinch-to-zoom works fine on HackerNews on an iPad, and the HackerNews font is nothing unusual. Regarding HN being too wide, why don't you narrow your browser window? Personally, I like the fact the traditional web design in which HN adjusts the line to screen width rather than imposing a width.

Personally, I like the fact the traditional web design in which HN adjusts the line to screen width rather than imposing a width.

Its just that it ruins the experience on mobile devices because you can't resize the window and zooming doesn't reflow the text.

for what it's worth, I don't really have a problem with it. They provide an API and there are like 90 billion ycombinator mobile apps to choose from which do a better job.

Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by glitchdout »

leorocky wrote: post #44
joblessjunkie wrote: post #32

I have poor vision. This website uses a herd-to-read font and disables pinch-to-zoom (an essential feature) on my iPad.

This website is even difficult to read on a regular desktop browser (too wide, downvoted comments increasingly impossible to read causing eye strain). I recommend using your own content script with Chrome. This may not help on your iPad but on Android you can use Firefox with your own userscript. It's the only way I can tolerate it. It would probably take a competent someone a few hours to fix the readability issues…

On my desktop browser, I can only browse Hacker News with zoom at 150%.

Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by claar »

Gracana wrote: post #155
fionatg wrote: post #49

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I think its a love/hate thing with my site theme. I've had a lot of comments that it looks fantastic. I think I'll have to increase the font size at least.

I actually like the font... but I'm not surprised that a lot of people don't.

For me, my eyes can't easily scan the text in this font, making it much slower to read.

It's a very frustrating experience when I'm interested in the article itself, but it's literally fighting me as I try to get information from it.

Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by claudius »

sp332 wrote: post #120
pmontra wrote: post #103

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It's not built-in but the Stylish extension does that.

Claudius is being sarcastic. http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserContent.css

Sarcastic, yes, but mostly relating to Opera 12.x’s UserCSS features; I didn’t actually know about userContent.css. Thanks for the pointer, although it seems to be impossible to only apply it to certain sites?

Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by daktanis »

steven2012 wrote: post #131
fionatg wrote: post #58

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Exactly, it sort of re-inforces my point that when I was designing that site I didn't really think about it. I don't have to be an accessibility expert to discuss the fact that developers don't tend to create accessible sites!

It doesn't reinforce your point, it makes you look like a hypocrite.

Starting a conversation on your blog about a topic you don't know much about doesn't make you a hypocrite.

Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by daktanis »

leeoniya wrote: post #156
justinsteele wrote: post #137

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Did you read the article? There is no irony here, she immediately points out her lack of understanding of fundamental accessibility principles. That is why she wrote about how we as an industry allow that to happen (senior engineers who know nothing about catering to disability).

sure there is. it's like an investigative journalist learning nothing (or failing to apply lessons learned) about good investigative journalism while writing about it. another comparison would be like a professional driver admitting he knows nothing about hand brakes, writing an essay about why he knows nothing about them, how he can learn and be more knowledgeable about them...and then proceeding to drive 1,000 mile…

Personal blog, slow your roll. Author said they were a professional software developer, not a professional writer.

Re: 3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cater for the former?

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Post by moistgorilla »

steven2012 wrote: post #131
fionatg wrote: post #58

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Exactly, it sort of re-inforces my point that when I was designing that site I didn't really think about it. I don't have to be an accessibility expert to discuss the fact that developers don't tend to create accessible sites!

It doesn't reinforce your point, it makes you look like a hypocrite.

Do you even know what that word means?
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