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HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by locksley »

angusb wrote: post #58

I know that there's a kick to be got out of circumventing the draconian rules big music/film industry lobby into law, but what do the writers think about independents that they effectively take down in the same blow? This is a genuine question, not an attack. I've spent a lot of time studying/writing/playing music and through that have got to personally know many of the most talented and versatile musicians I've ever…

Not many musicians expect to make money from selling records.

It used to be "do free shows to sell records". Now it's completely reversed to "do free records to sell shows".

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by massappeal »

angusb wrote: post #58

I know that there's a kick to be got out of circumventing the draconian rules big music/film industry lobby into law, but what do the writers think about independents that they effectively take down in the same blow? This is a genuine question, not an attack. I've spent a lot of time studying/writing/playing music and through that have got to personally know many of the most talented and versatile musicians I've ever…

I'm not involved with this project at all, but I do think you raise some interesting points.

First of all lets acknowledge the fact that if these tracks are on Youtube, they are publicly available for free, and unless they are registering 100k+ views per song, these artists are not making any money off these tracks.

Second, musicians taking wedding gigs and whatnot to supplement their creative careers is not a result of piracy; musicians, filmmakers and photographers have been doing that since always and probably always will.

Third, if these musicians are resorting to private functions like weddings to finance their creative career, its likely that they don't have a wide enough fan base and revenue stream for a product like this to significantly affect them.

In my opinion.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by terminalcommand »

For those of you who get the error of libudev.so.0 library. Following commands will help.

1) sudo apt-get install libudev1 2) ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1 ./libudev.so.0

--You could put this part in a batch file --- 3) LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$(pwd):$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./HipHop $

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by conatus »

If this is backed out by YouTube then the artists involved do receive the royalties from plays provided they are hooked up to a payment collection agency, which are geographically specific.

I searched for one of the artists (Talk Less Say More) from my label (Records On Ribs - http://recordsonribs.com) and it instantly played.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by aaren »

angusb wrote: post #58

I know that there's a kick to be got out of circumventing the draconian rules big music/film industry lobby into law, but what do the writers think about independents that they effectively take down in the same blow? This is a genuine question, not an attack. I've spent a lot of time studying/writing/playing music and through that have got to personally know many of the most talented and versatile musicians I've ever…

Musicians have only recently been able to make money from recorded media. I see this as a temporary anomaly allowed by the state of technology in the 20th century (i.e. existence of mass media as a physical product).

Musicians (and other artists) can still make money from e.g. performing live - which I'm assuming was their dominant form of income before the 20th century.

I don't believe that a monetary incentive is necessary for good art. I understand that artists need to eat, but also that not everyone can eat from being an artist.

The internet is very important to me as an open and free resource. I can't see how information can be made non-private and scarce at the same time, so I can't see how we can pay for music and keep the internet as I want it.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by mambodog »

tiglionabbit wrote: post #41
peteretep wrote: post #39

I am still consistently frustrated by lack of video content at reasonable prices, and while I never used it, Popcorn Time seemed like a good thing to me. But, music is a solved problem for me, via Spotify, and I find then that my gut feeling on this is instead that it's parasitic.

For me, video is solved by Amazon Instant Video. They have everything, and it's usually $2-3 a video.

Except if you're in the world (not the US).

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by louhike »

krig wrote: post #60
angusb wrote: post #58

I know that there's a kick to be got out of circumventing the draconian rules big music/film industry lobby into law, but what do the writers think about independents that they effectively take down in the same blow? This is a genuine question, not an attack. I've spent a lot of time studying/writing/playing music and through that have got to personally know many of the most talented and versatile musicians I've ever…

> I'm interested to know what people think about this. Do people think that the end (taking power away from big music industry) justifies the loss for those small-time players, or is it something that simply hasn't been considered at all? My opinion: The end justifies the loss. Secure and private file sharing is going to be essential for ensuring liberty in the future. I am absolutely convinced about that. You can't…

Why is it essential? And why is this liberty? People may disagree with you and tell that musicians must have the liberty to get money from their music through sales. Can we really force them to give it for free? Music production cost a lot of money and involve a lot of persons to work on it. Musicians already have to do a lot of gigs to cover the cost of recording music. Even artists like Jeff Buckley had to work a lot to repay the studio.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by Argorak »

> We believe that listening to music should always be free and available to everyone, and that only owning it should bare a cost.

I hate this entitlement. As if it was their decision. As if they were running a social movement.

I am all for open access to arts, but this is the artists decision and not some programmers, just because they can.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by higherpurpose »

tpio wrote: post #48

It seems the quality of many of the songs are sub-optimal. Would be nice to have some sort of bit rate indicator in the GUI so that I could skip the 128kbps songs. Other than that it seems to have everything I've looked for

They should allow you to choose the "preferred quality" in Settings. Show you say the 192kbps songs first, and if they can't find that song of that quality, then show you the ones in lower quality, in descending order.
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