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Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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You do know this violates the EULA for OSX? No OSX version allows for virtualizing it as a guest VM. (just pointing it out)

Which is a real shame. It means that testing OSX software is significantly more expensive than testing software on any other popular OS due to the need for a Mac host.

Being an Apple developer is very (overly, maybe excessively?) expensive.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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I wish there was a reasonable way to run OS X on non-Apple hardware.

Just today I was looking at the current Mac lineup, and there's not a single setup that works for me. Everything comes with underpowered Intel graphics, unless you pay the ridiculous price for a top-of-the-line MacBook Pro.

Oh, if only I could have a Surface Pro 3 running OS X... I could live with the Intel graphics if it had Surface-style portability.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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What does installing OS X on hardware it was never tested on have to do with the number of Mac users not wanting to use a OS that requires work beyond turning the computer on? Linux is harder than OS X to get running, when you follow the OS X EULA.

Very much so not true: http://fedoraproject.org/ http://www.ubuntu.com/ Download an ISO and install it. I think you will be surprised. Pop the disk in after burning to a CD/DVD. Click "install", reboot and you are done. Doesn't matter what your hardware is... it will install and work. Other than getting a computer with a pre-installed OS, it really can't get much simpler. Modern Linux Desktops do not require you to d…

It will install and "work". But the 3d graphics won't. And even though it's pretty easy nowadays, it's still not easier than OS X, especially if you want to transfer files and settings from another machine.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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I find it humerus that getting osx to run in a controlled environment, useful for testing simulation etc takes more hacking and more work than any Linux distro ever did, even in the early days. Despite this Mac people insists getting Linux to work is "hard" when it mostly works out of the box on any hardware. Amazing.

"than any Linux distro ever did" - Remembering my stack of 32 floppies to install slackware and the level of understanding it took of drivers and hardware, I'm pretty sure that's not true.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Hmm, appears you are correct. Previous versions just flat-out banned any sort of virtualization. Appears this release now allows you to have up-to 2 OSX guests running ontop of an OSX host. (A pathetic attempt at allowing virtualization imho, my Xen hosts at the office have 10-30 guests running concurrently per box)

Well, it's not completely unreasonable given that Apple is in the business of selling hardware. Of course they want you to buy macs. :)

In all my years, and colo'ed across 3 DC's... I have yet to see any OSX server hardware besides a mac mini...

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does installing OS X on hardware it was never tested on have to do with the number of Mac users not wanting to use a OS that requires work beyond turning the computer on? Linux is harder than OS X to get running, when you follow the OS X EULA.

Very much so not true: http://fedoraproject.org/ http://www.ubuntu.com/ Download an ISO and install it. I think you will be surprised. Pop the disk in after burning to a CD/DVD. Click "install", reboot and you are done. Doesn't matter what your hardware is... it will install and work. Other than getting a computer with a pre-installed OS, it really can't get much simpler. Modern Linux Desktops do not require you to d…

It's at least 100x more difficult than opening a laptop screen and it already being done.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very much so not true: http://fedoraproject.org/ http://www.ubuntu.com/ Download an ISO and install it. I think you will be surprised. Pop the disk in after burning to a CD/DVD. Click "install", reboot and you are done. Doesn't matter what your hardware is... it will install and work. Other than getting a computer with a pre-installed OS, it really can't get much simpler. Modern Linux Desktops do not require you to d…

It will install and "work". But the 3d graphics won't. And even though it's pretty easy nowadays, it's still not easier than OS X, especially if you want to transfer files and settings from another machine.

I'm not sure what you mean by "3d graphics won't [work]", they do just fine. Transferring files/settings is also a non-issue. I think it's been a long while since you looked at or used a Linux desktop. They have come a long long way in the past 5 years.

Not sure how it can be any easier other than getting a computer pre-installed (which you can now too, but, admittedly not as common as I would like). I mean, you have to put a disk into some hardware at some point and click some install button...

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does installing OS X on hardware it was never tested on have to do with the number of Mac users not wanting to use a OS that requires work beyond turning the computer on? Linux is harder than OS X to get running, when you follow the OS X EULA.

Very much so not true: http://fedoraproject.org/ http://www.ubuntu.com/ Download an ISO and install it. I think you will be surprised. Pop the disk in after burning to a CD/DVD. Click "install", reboot and you are done. Doesn't matter what your hardware is... it will install and work. Other than getting a computer with a pre-installed OS, it really can't get much simpler. Modern Linux Desktops do not require you to d…

I agree that linux is very easy to install these days, but the point is still valid. OS X was never intended to run the way the author is using it. If you use it as intended, installation is every bit as simple as Ubuntu or Fedora, and there's no need to mess with partitioning or drivers.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Which is a real shame. It means that testing OSX software is significantly more expensive than testing software on any other popular OS due to the need for a Mac host.

Being an Apple developer is very (overly, maybe excessively?) expensive.

Well, not really. It is a popular argument though.
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