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OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #59
wlesieutre wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be data, but it is not a statistically significant amount of data. And there's an awful lot of selection bias in product complaints.

Crashes are not statistics. Code crashes or it doesn't. So something smells in Denmark.

Cmon. There's no such thing as a 'false positive' in code crashes. Its a binary thing - correct code doesn't do it. So something is wrong with an OS that crashes for somebody. Its got nothing to do with selection bias.

And if it crashes for certain people chronically, then there's a syndrome that's reproducible. Meaning it is likely to affect a lot of people in similar circumstances.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by peckrob »

bkurtz13 wrote: post #12

In an attempt to balance the discussion, I'm on 10.9.3 and I've had absolutely zero issues so far.

Same here. I'm running 10.9.3 on a 2012 Retina MBP, a 2013 Macbook Air, a 2011 iMac, and a few others with no problems.

In fact, it seems to have finally fixed the sleep wake failures I was occasionally having on the Macbook Air since Mavericks came out.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by taylodl »

If we're going to collect anecdotes then I'll note my 2013 MBP has been running continually for over a year without a panic. I have a 2006 MB and 2008 MB (both still running) each having panicked 2-3 times over their lifetime. I'm a developer, my son is a musician and my wife is a graphics design artist so there's been lots of software thrown at these machines.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by romanovcode »

james33 wrote: post #40
james33 wrote: post #30

I'm really surprised by all of the reports of crashing. I've had 3 different Macs over the last 7 years and I've had just one crash in all that time. I use my Mac anywhere from 8-16 hours per day and tax it pretty well. Before that I couldn't stay away from the BSOD on Windows, one of the reasons I finally made the switch.

Why am I getting down-voted for this?

Probably because 99% of people had not seen a single BSOD since Win7.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

Disabling hibernate and fighting with power napping has solved most of my crashing problems. I think 10.9 is a mess when it comes to trying to save me power.

I also still disable noatime, journaling, swap space, and sudden motion sensors on any computer with an SSD; even if its unnecessary.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by unfunco »

taylodl wrote: post #83

If we're going to collect anecdotes then I'll note my 2013 MBP has been running continually for over a year without a panic. I have a 2006 MB and 2008 MB (both still running) each having panicked 2-3 times over their lifetime. I'm a developer, my son is a musician and my wife is a graphics design artist so there's been lots of software thrown at these machines.

And here's mine: My first Mac was the G3, I'm now on a 2013 11" Macbook Air (10.9.2) and I have never experienced a kernel panic ever, I couldn't tell you what a kernel panic looks like. The only time I ever have an issue is if I try waking my computer immediately after entering sleep when attached to an external display – it doesn't happen and inevitably requires a restart.

    Current uptime: 23:05  up 3 days,  8:36, 2 users, load averages: 1.67 1.56 1.67
I have never experienced unreliability, and it's a pleasure to use and carry. I tried Ubuntu on a HP Laptop I had around, and I didn't like it one bit, it felt slow and the UI felt clunky. Even when using SSH to access the machine it took around 5-6 seconds for the bash prompt to appear, compared to an almost instantaneous Debian prompt.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by [deleted] »

ansimionescu wrote: post #53
ambler0 wrote: post #42

Notably absent from the article, but spelled out in the comments, is that the author doesn't have an AppleID because he doesn't want to agree to Apple's terms, and therefore cannot acquire a kernel debug kit.

You're misquoting the author. He said that he doesn't have the time now to read through all the T&Cs.

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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by koshak »

james33 wrote: post #40
james33 wrote: post #30

I'm really surprised by all of the reports of crashing. I've had 3 different Macs over the last 7 years and I've had just one crash in all that time. I use my Mac anywhere from 8-16 hours per day and tax it pretty well. Before that I couldn't stay away from the BSOD on Windows, one of the reasons I finally made the switch.

Why am I getting down-voted for this?

The only reason I ever get bsods since windows xp is hardware problems. hence if you see bsod check out your box, do not blame windows. moreover, kernel panics on linux boxes are also most of the times hardware bound or you've broken something yourself.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by Mister_Snuggles »

No kernel panics here, but I get weird behaviour with external displays.

Sometimes when I hook up my external displays, some of the icons on one of the menu bars will disappear. It's very strange. I can fix it by going into the display settings and changing which one is primary.

I've got a recent rMBP with 2 x 1920x1200 monitors attached, one via a MiniDP -> DVI adapter, the other via as MiniDP -> Dual Link DVI adapter.

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