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Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by abalone »

nwh wrote: post #34
narrator wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's funny is this is what Quark did in the 90s and then they got their market share stolen by Adobe. The same thing will happen to Adobe at some point. There will be so much user frustration that people will pack up and leave to the first reasonable tool that comes along.

The trouble is that the lock-in is immense. I know people with upwards of 20,000 PSD files in stock ready for when clients return and want similar jobs done. Every piece of print hardware I know of uses Pantone standard colours which no other software supports properly or fully. None of the plotters I have used support anything but Photoshop and Illustrator through Adobe Flash plugins. For all the cries that Sketch a…

You make a good point about high-end print production, but Sketch is definitely making inroads with professional designers. They don't have to worry about plotter compatibility.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by mcmillion »

ShaneOG wrote: post #167

What should happen due to this outage: Adobe Management: Oh no, our users cannot work. Let's remove the requirement for our software to phone home just to open/work . What will probably happen: Adobe Management: Hmm, maybe let's try to make our servers more available?

The phone home is apparently periodic. I worked in Photoshop and Illustrator multiple times yesterday with zero problem.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by mcmillion »

abalone wrote: post #179
nnq wrote: post #37

My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

I'm going to have to see that in person to believe it.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by [deleted] »

morganherlocker wrote: post #176
coldtea wrote: post #125

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> Actually, you could fit the entirety of the state of Washington in Well, most people don't want to lose even 20% of their phone's storage in a single app, much less 50%. And that's just for those satisfied to only have info for one state. What about people regularly travelling between 1-2 states? That said, I question the OP storage math. At least with vector information, I know that something like Navigon's GPS/ma…

Vector data has a much smaller footprint in most cases, but takes lots of processing to render, and even more if you need to be able to zoom around the map. Rendering the US down to z17 as raster tiles allows for efficient processing, but could easily get into 10s of GB (which makes sense, since it is creating thousands and thousands of png images). The size grows exponentially with each zoom level though, so if you…

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Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by btown »

abalone wrote: post #179
nnq wrote: post #37

My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

I was curious about how content-aware fill works, so I did some digging. Photoshop's content-aware fill uses the PatchMatch algorithm, originally developed at Princeton:

http://gfx.cs.princeton.edu/pubs/Barnes_2009_PAR/patchmatch....

Does anyone know if Pixelmator is using the same technology, or is it something new?

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by blueskin_ »

gagege wrote: post #180
blueskin_ wrote: post #143

Meanwhile, sensible people who don't rent their software are laughing from CS6.

Until CS6 stops being supported by some operating system or processor architecture in the future.

x86_64 will never die, it's too pervasive, and as much as mobile fans think the future is underpowered ARM with the actual processing being done by a third party sifting through your personal data (who generally use x86_64 anyway), reality isn't following their expectations.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by nandhp »

lotsofmangos wrote: post #120
taspeotis wrote: post #115

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If you Google around Adobe released a statement saying that those CS2 downloads and provided serial number are for customers who bought CS2. Adobe switched off their activation servers but made the serial numbers available to mitigate that.

They are undoubtedly for those customers, but legally you have to enforce copyrights to keep them. There is no way that Adobe could argue that they are still enforcing copyright restrictions on the binaries of CS2.

You're confusing copyright with trademarks. Trademarks must be defended if you want to keep them (this is logical: if other people are using them, they are no longer a mark of your trade). That doesn't apply to copyright; it's an entirely automatic process.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by dublinben »

uptown wrote: post #172
thenomad wrote: post #135

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Wow! I didn't even realise it was still possible to buy Adobe products the old-school way. This is extremely good news.

Yes - but it's old versions that will no longer be updated. You can usually find older versions directly from resellers at Amazon at prices below Adobe's direct prices.

The older versions also will not accept files created in the newer Creative Cloud versions. This has been a constant source of frustration at my office. It's an excellent way for Adobe to encourage/force everyone to buy CC.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by gagege »

blueskin_ wrote: post #186
gagege wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until CS6 stops being supported by some operating system or processor architecture in the future.

x86_64 will never die, it's too pervasive, and as much as mobile fans think the future is underpowered ARM with the actual processing being done by a third party sifting through your personal data (who generally use x86_64 anyway), reality isn't following their expectations.

I don't know about that.

And anyway, I've had 2 expensive pieces of software meant for professional production, that just stopped working over the years for various reasons. "Old" versions of Vegas Video don't work in anything past Windows XP. Same goes for "old" versions of Pro Tools. Also, with the old Pro Tools, make sure you don't have a dual core processor, because that breaks it too.

My point is, there are many factors which can suddenly render software obsolete. I wouldn't expect CS6 to run on anything but really old unsupported hardware in 5 - 10 years.

One of the best things you can do for your career is to remain flexible about the tools you use. Always be on the lookout for alternatives.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by cmiller1 »

Fuxy wrote: post #123
nnq wrote: post #37

My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

And this is why "cloud" software will always be worse then regular software. What happens when these "cloud" companies go out of business? You're pretty much SOL if you can't find a replacement quick. Don't ever rely on "cloud" software for critical infrastructure unless you own that cloud. Everybody get CS6 and delay upgrading as long as you can.

I disagree in some specific cases. For software that is focused around accessing shared data. Say, ERP, document collaboration, etc. for small businesses that can't afford or don't want dedicated IT staff cloud based software makes a lot of sense.
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