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Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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This hand-wave over designer's inability to build enough slack to deal with Adobe's failure into every project is a combination of unsubtle trolling and egregious sociopathy.

How many times did Adobe failed? Total minutes outage per month would be nice to know.

How many times did they have work-stopping outages before CC?

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

This all seems sensible until Adobe revokes your license and you lose all money you invested so far and access to the work you produced. There should be consumer protection laws for these cases. When you pirate software, everything works smoothly (unless you catch some trojan), but if you are a paying customer, all kinds of unpleasant and artificial problems are thrown at you.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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What's funny is this is what Quark did in the 90s and then they got their market share stolen by Adobe. The same thing will happen to Adobe at some point. There will be so much user frustration that people will pack up and leave to the first reasonable tool that comes along.

If you're one of those, I highly recommend Pixelmator - download at pixelmator.com. My choice for a really simple, easy image editor is Acorn from Flying Meat Software - http://flyingmeat.com/acorn/ . It's like Apple's Numbers compared to Microsoft's Excel - there are things that the most sophisticated couple of percent of users will miss, but for most people it's a great alternative. Adobe can't die quick enough to…

The immediate thing that this particular sophisticated user misses is the ability to not have to buy a Mac to run it :)

Looks like great software, but there's no Windows version I can see.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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We've learned to live with centralized water and electricity and banking, all outside of our control, rather than rely on on-premises solutions. SaaS, too, will win out after a few hiccups.

In a very real sense our data is an extension of ourselves, a part of our minds. In contrast water, electricity, and banking are by-and-large anonymous basic services that have no further properties. I get that cloud storage people think of themselves as the utility providers of the future, after all it makes instinctive sense to want to own something which consumers will spend their whole lives on. I've been in meet…

Exactly and the analogy with the utilities is bad for another reason too.

It makes sense for the utilities to be centralized generating electricity for every house separately is inefficient and has only become recently viable with solar panels. Where possible people tend to switch to that for independence or a combination of both.

Getting water to every house in a city is impossible without it being centralized.

SAAS on the other hand is not necessary. We can do the same thing without requiring constant connectivity or by building and app that requires connectivity only when absolutely necessary for it to work.

However we can't ask for rent if it's not a service. I for one avoid all SAAS like the plague.

I don't mind one time payments hey if i get enough value from the product I wouldn't mind the option of donating extra however monthly payments make me look twice at how much value I'm getting or if i can get it from a product that requires a one time payment instead.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Adobe is increasingly forcing you to do it. EDIT: For example, can you figure out how to buy Photoshop from this page? I can't. I've been trying for a couple minutes. http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/software._sl_id-conten...

You have to find it here, I've had this page bookmarked since they started pushing CC, just in-case. http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/cs6._sl_id-contentfilt...

Wow! I didn't even realise it was still possible to buy Adobe products the old-school way.

This is extremely good news.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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And this is why I won't trust SaaS that doesn't provide a viable self-host solution (which for practical purposes tends to mean Free software, although I suppose "binary" only self-contained jars might be a realistic alternative). And also why I can't see myself selling/working on such a solution without providing some form of viable / realistic exit strategy/alternative. With traditional apps, you run the risk of eg…

I'm not sure to understand your point. Does it boil down to "single point of failure are bad"? There are alternatives to each of the Adobe products, self hosted and available offline. People going the Creative Cloud route for their daily job are in a situation where the alternative costed too much or doesn't allow them to do their job in a sufficient way, so there was no real viable options from the start. The proble…

For professionals working in design there Is no real alternative to Photoshop.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Complete non-hacked photoshop CS2 is freely available with serial - http://www.techspot.com/downloads/3689-adobe-photoshop-cs2.h... It works pretty well in Wine as well, if you fiddle with the settings.

If you're happy using software you don't have a license for, why not grab CS6 off of the your favorite torrent site.

People bitch and bitch about DRM (and god knows I do as well), but as soon as a company tries to release software without any licensing hoops or other checks, people jump all over it and shout "Hey everybody, this company isn't going out of their way stop me from using their software, it must be free!!!!" Just because you can download and run some piece of software from a companies website doesn't mean you have a license to freely use it.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Complete non-hacked photoshop CS2 is freely available with serial - http://www.techspot.com/downloads/3689-adobe-photoshop-cs2.h... It works pretty well in Wine as well, if you fiddle with the settings.

If you Google around Adobe released a statement saying that those CS2 downloads and provided serial number are for customers who bought CS2. Adobe switched off their activation servers but made the serial numbers available to mitigate that.

Adobe's actions and disclaimer on the downloads is interesting - they seem to be using vague legal language, e.g. using "may not" instead of "must not", deleting posts on its forum that claim using those downloads without a license is illegal, etc. To me it looks like they're just trying to discourage it somewhat officially; given their rather lax stance on piracy, they probably believe it's better that someone uses unlicensed CS2 than something non-Adobe.

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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I sure hope not. It's rare for me to encounter SaaS that provides a better service than something I can install and run natively.

Surely there is something? E.g. Google Maps was a breath of fresh air after MapPoint.

OsmAnd+ works great offline ;)

Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

>Step 3 That is what VM's are for.....

http://www.prtfl.io/muellerwolfram/blog/2013/1/23/how-to-use...
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