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Every Country Will Have Armed Drones Within Ten Years
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#52This is too US-centric, especially as it implies that drone proliferation will slow down if the US stops its own development. This is nonsense. Fact is, the US was a late adopter to more modern drones, or UAVs, having fallen behind countries like Israel and South Africa who had developed propeller-driven surveillance UAVs and used them operationally in combat from the late 1970s. Both gained much experience in the us…
Thanks for this. I was always curious about the influence of Israeli tech in the drones here in Arizona in the late 90's.
At that time I was the technical rep for Snap-on Equipment, and I was called by TRW outside of Ft Huachuca. They needed equipment that could diagnose the computer system used in a drone, but the engine was a Moto Guzzi from Italy, and it had fuel injection on it that had been supplied by the Israelis. The fuel injection system had been stripped of all the diagnostic capability for some reason, so TRW was having a hard time diagnosing the system. I sold them a Simutech, which was this big octupus of wires that let you tap into all the PCM signals at once.
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#53Will drone strikes eventually be followed up by semi-autonomous ship/ tank/ robot machine gunner invasions?
Probably.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Terrorists only use the tactics their people can execute effectively which is why terry talliban use crude IED's and target soft civilian targets and don't go toe to toe with the SAS. The IRA did experiment with RC planes as an attack vector they decided that it was not worth the effort - Car bombs and improvised mortars where a better weapon more bang for the buck Why exactly do you think my comment was silly?
Where is this evidence you have of the IRA using drones? I assume there is some, I assume you have it, so it should be no problem to post a link, or maybe two links as single source is sometimes not good enough. Have you been to Afghanistan? Ever met a genuine terrorist? You seem to make assumptions as if you know how these terrorist people think. Earlier you were talking about those fictional 'al-qaeda' fellows, not…
BBC documentary with ex PIRA bomb makers was the source for the RC planes.
actually I do know the difference between the different factions in Afghanistan 055 Brigade al Qaeda and the locally recruited fighters.
And forgive me if the spell checker I used doesn't have you preferred spellings.
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#55Something that wasn't mentioned is command & control. 1st tier militaries will have satellite communications, and be able to operate their drones world-wide. 2nd & 3rd tier militaries will have nearby ground-stations, with control capabilities limited to just-over-the-horizon. Again, control of the high-ground is key. With regard to PRECIPITOUS HEIGHTS, if you are beforehand with your adversary, you should occupy the…
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#56>What’s worse, say experts, it’s too late for the United States to do anything about it. This is an extraordinary comment to make, when they have used drones more than anyone.
Yes the US had the most advanced and largest air fleet and I expect that to continue.
Well, for a few decades maybe. The Roman empire had the most advanced army at some point. And the British Empire had the best fleet at another.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where is this evidence you have of the IRA using drones? I assume there is some, I assume you have it, so it should be no problem to post a link, or maybe two links as single source is sometimes not good enough. Have you been to Afghanistan? Ever met a genuine terrorist? You seem to make assumptions as if you know how these terrorist people think. Earlier you were talking about those fictional 'al-qaeda' fellows, not…
BBC documentary with ex PIRA bomb makers was the source for the RC planes. actually I do know the difference between the different factions in Afghanistan 055 Brigade al Qaeda and the locally recruited fighters. And forgive me if the spell checker I used doesn't have you preferred spellings.
"I saw it on TV once" - is that the only source you have?
Remote control planes have been around for decades - you grandfather probably had one made of things like balsa. I am sure that those Irish people were not so retarded that they did not see the possibilities of putting some Semtex in one and flying into Balmoral or somewhere. A little switch on the nose, no timing device needed. It is all imaginable. Yet, we mustn't let our imaginations get the better of ourselves. There is a distinction between reality, propaganda and imaginations of an over-active mind. This Brigade 55 of yours, met anyone in it?
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I took that to imply roughly that 'The USA has been igniting and fuelling this arms race with ever greater use and weaponization of drones, but now the process is self-sustaining. Even if the USA should cease developments of its drone program and start decommissioning the crafts, that in itself would not stop drone armament, since several other actors would in all probability continue developments on programs that ar…
Interesting, I took it to mean that this journalist is like most others, in that he starts from the assumption that the U.S owns the world and has the right to rule it as such.
:) I certainly won't dispute that you may have been right, but I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
As an aside, if you were right: Unpalatable as the sentiment may be, there is still something to the notion that the USA does have a lot of influence over major parts of the world. I think we can all generally agree that as a nation they do have an unusual degree of possibilities to set examples and fashions, and I like it much better when the administration feels like championing human rights or restrictions on certain kinds of particularly nasty weapons than when it's bent on exporting new justifications for steps towards totalitarianism or more cost-effective ways to slaughter people.
So if people in general indeed seem to think that the USA has both possibility and some kind of obligation to do things like try to curtail a rise in drone warfare, I actually feel kind of pleased at that. To the extent that it's real, I think it's welcome, and to the extent that it's conceit, maybe it's at least a constructive one.
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#59Love this: “Once countries like China start exporting these, they’re going to be everywhere really quickly. Within the next 10 years, every country will have these,” Noel Sharkey How about you change "China" to "USA" - Basically the same right? What's so wrong about China having drones that he singles them out?
Because it's the common perception that USA would never sell their weapons to terrorists or third world countries where there is little to no control over them, but China lacks such a moral compass and will sell to anyone who is willing to pay. A completely wrong perception, but there it is.
Old joke - how does the US knows there are WMD in Iraq - they keep the receipts.
US armed both Iraq and the Taliban in the 80s.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
BBC documentary with ex PIRA bomb makers was the source for the RC planes. actually I do know the difference between the different factions in Afghanistan 055 Brigade al Qaeda and the locally recruited fighters. And forgive me if the spell checker I used doesn't have you preferred spellings.
"I saw it on TV once" - is that the only source you have? Remote control planes have been around for decades - you grandfather probably had one made of things like balsa. I am sure that those Irish people were not so retarded that they did not see the possibilities of putting some Semtex in one and flying into Balmoral or somewhere. A little switch on the nose, no timing device needed. It is all imaginable. Yet, we m…
And maybe you'd like to share with the rest of us exactly where you get your knowledge eh.
My point was that the PIRA one of the most effective terrorist organisations in recent times did look at model planes/drones and discarded then as not an effective weapon/tactic.
Brigade 55 are of course the circa 2000 foreign fighters imported into Afghanistan and used as a cadre.
but as you seem to be so well informed you should know that.