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The Story Of Larry Page's Comeback

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Re: The Story Of Larry Page's Comeback

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Post by zhemao »

joncalhoun wrote: post #99
zhemao wrote: post #77

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Yeah, but Gmail's inbox view is paginated. I don't think the number of conversations shown on a single page has changed since then. Maybe the conversations themselves have gotten longer? I'm sure Google's engineers could get the page load time down if it was a priority. I think at this point everyone is so invested in Gmail they just aren't that worried about losing users because of slower UI load times.

I would imagine this is due to user behavior. How often do you refresh a gmail tab? I leave mine open for days, so having it load the entire app slowly isn't an issue. What is important is updating in realtime when a new email comes in and opening those almost instantly when I select them. If that is the norm, then initial page loads aren't nearly as important.

Hmm, perhaps I'm atypical. I generally don't leave my email open and respond in real time. I tend to do it in batches, so I reopen gmail multiple times a day.

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Post by graycat »

Aloha wrote: post #56
whoismua wrote: post #53

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That crap bothers me, autism is hip, especially Aspergers. If this continues, soon 50% of the children will have it. Then 10 years later, they'll come up with a new syndrome. Not to say that autism doesn't exist, just saying that, IMO, far too many 'normal' kids are being labeled as autistic.

I think the problem in the end is the narrowing definition of normal behavior. First it was ADD - adolescent boys who were fidgety and distractible now had an illness, previously this was considered normal for young boys - then we decided that people who are not as social, perhaps shy - were now ill as well, whereas before again, this was considered within the definition of normal human behavior.

> boys who were fidgety and distractible

Right: Since it was nearly only the boys and normal girls are not like that, it must be an 'illness'! Whenever boys and girls are not the same, there must be an illness because, as we know now from the feminists, boys and girls are the same, exactly the same, with no differences at all except illnesses!

Re: The Story Of Larry Page's Comeback

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Post by Aloha »

lutusp wrote: post #70
Aloha wrote: post #56

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I think the problem in the end is the narrowing definition of normal behavior. First it was ADD - adolescent boys who were fidgety and distractible now had an illness, previously this was considered normal for young boys - then we decided that people who are not as social, perhaps shy - were now ill as well, whereas before again, this was considered within the definition of normal human behavior.

It seems the psychologists are getting antsy to find a replacement for Asperger's (they hate losing diagnoses): http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/12/health/idea-of-new-attenti... Quote: "With more than six million American children having received a diagnosis of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, concern has been rising that the condition is being significantly misdiagnosed and overtreated with prescription medic…

How is someone being a daydreamer an illness?

Re: The Story Of Larry Page's Comeback

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Post by Aloha »

graycat wrote: post #122
Aloha wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the problem in the end is the narrowing definition of normal behavior. First it was ADD - adolescent boys who were fidgety and distractible now had an illness, previously this was considered normal for young boys - then we decided that people who are not as social, perhaps shy - were now ill as well, whereas before again, this was considered within the definition of normal human behavior.

> boys who were fidgety and distractible Right: Since it was nearly only the boys and normal girls are not like that, it must be an 'illness'! Whenever boys and girls are not the same, there must be an illness because, as we know now from the feminists, boys and girls are the same, exactly the same, with no differences at all except illnesses!

That was my point, more or less - without spelling it out. The feminization of young men is a huge issue, roughhousing for example is a normal activity for adolescent males.

Re: The Story Of Larry Page's Comeback

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Post by nicholascarlson »

ust wrote: post #35
nutjob2 wrote: post #24

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Why not just call it what it is: sloppy journalism? Ignoring the facts to further a pre-determined narrative would more commonly be called a lie.

Agreed. One more factual error is mentioning Tesla as a Croatian immigrant, but actually he was born in then Austrian Empire (which today is Croatia). His parents were Serbian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

Thanks. This was a mistake. I've fixed it.

Re: The Story Of Larry Page's Comeback

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Post by vijayboyapati »

The one interaction I had with Larry that I remember was when we were moving from the old Google building (the "googleplex") to a much larger building in the old Silicon Graphics campus. I went there on a Sunday night to check out my desk and where I would be sitting and I ran into Larry (there was no one else around). He gave me a tour of the building and we walked up to a window where we could see the whole campus, with several other huge buildings. I asked him "how on earth are we going to fill this building?", which could have held several times the size of the company at the time, and he pointed at the other buildings and said we're going to fill all of them. Holy f*ck, I thought.

Re: The Story Of Larry Page's Comeback

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Post by marbletiles »

gilgoomesh wrote: post #82

I realize that it's an aside in the article but I wanted to contradict something: > What’s less well understood is that Apple’s board and investors were absolutely right to fire Jobs. Early in his career, he was petulant, mean, and destructive This idea (Jobs needed to be away from Apple to improve himself) gets mentioned a lot but I think it's nonsense. First: Jobs was petulant, mean and destructive to people he dis…

The PowerBook was a truly non-Jobs Apple product and still one of their all-time greats.

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Post by erichocean »

gilgoomesh wrote: post #82

I realize that it's an aside in the article but I wanted to contradict something: > What’s less well understood is that Apple’s board and investors were absolutely right to fire Jobs. Early in his career, he was petulant, mean, and destructive This idea (Jobs needed to be away from Apple to improve himself) gets mentioned a lot but I think it's nonsense. First: Jobs was petulant, mean and destructive to people he dis…

A major thing Jobs learned in between his tenures at Apple is that it's not enough to design great products, you also have to design a great business model that can deliver them to market. Business model design is just as difficult IMO. (He learned this at Pixar positively, and at NeXT negatively. Pixar's campus is a great example of business design, along with their deal with Disney. This skill also sheds light on why he hired Tim Cook so early after his return to Apple.)

Whether Jobs would have learned the same without NeXT/Pixar is anyone's guess. I suspect he would have.

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Post by meej »

speeder wrote: post #92
lutusp wrote: post #47

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> Say what you want about Asperger's, but my son has autism ... Yes, but you're mixing different things. Autism is a category that includes a "Rain Man" level of functioning, but Asperger's was a diagnosis du jour that picked out brighter-than-normal kids, plus a raft of historical figures including Albert Einstein, in a way that made it seem like an attractive diagnosis, such that now, we have people objecting, sayi…

I am a guy that is probably an aspie, but recently I decided to stop using that label (or any other label). There is a sort of "aspie boom" and now everyone is a aspie, and claiming (rightfully or not) to be one makes people think you are a narcissistic or egoistical liar instead. What I do is just try to fix my social problems as I can, and say sorry when I do something bad (that happily, is becoming more and more u…

I've had that idea about INTPs and INTJs too.

I am in the camp that being aspie is a different way of being, not a disorder.

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