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A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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mixi.jp lets you follow RSS feeds. It wasn't enough to save mixi.

What killed mixi was losing it's mixi-ness, unique features that made it a success in the first place in an attempt to be more like FB or Twitter. I know Facebook has the mixi "footprints" feature internally since it uses it to target "people you may know".

Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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That's a good idea but the main reason google+ failed is a lot simpler than that it just alienated all the geeks and early adopters by forcing it down their throught too much.

If they would have allowed it to grow naturally and wouldn't have forced people to use it whether they wanted to or not attempted to make it more user friendly and intuitive the would have succeeded.

Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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I do agree it would have been logical and probably straightforward to integrate RSS into Google+, but to say it would have radically affected the success of the service is going too far.

If anything, it would make RSS more compelling to those of us who never really liked the experience of any readers (Google Reader included). Personally, I see RSS as little more than food for web-robots to consume, metabolize, and excrete.

Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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This is just specualtion. There is no hard evidence that they are shifting a thousand talent to other things at once. In fact, in a previous discussion it was said that people were moving to a new building on the campus. Did the author just ASSUME that it was a sign of the changing.

I do think Google is thinking about a new strategy, but when he says "Google is getting away from Google+" is just pure speculation.

The real deal is that we have gap. There is a distance in using so many tools. I post it on Twitter but i want that to appear on FB but not G+. Or whatever. I have RSS feed. I have photos I want to share but not indexed or shared on Google Plus. This is sure something a startup can take on. But this is where social network companies are failing to do well BECAUSE they all want everyone to join their platform and ONLY their platform.

Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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post #50

That's not the biggest problem, to me. Google+ maybe has not hit the target usage stats google wanted, but even when you love google+, it's awkward to use. I'm a daily google+ user and quite like the product. But when it comes to publishing, it always feels a bit off. I don't have a single public identity. I'm a rails developer, a news addict, a french citizen and since recently, a 3d printer user. Recently, I decide…

You could even implement that with a metaphor that is used to address a similar problem in the real world. People will say something "I'm wearing my Engineers hat now" to make it clear that they are communicating from a particular viewpoint. Hats, and indeed Masks(where you see only the headgear and not the identity behind it), would be a great addition to Google+.

> Hats […] would be a great addition to Google+.

Are you working at Valve?

Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. People who used Reader were early adopters and influencers. Perhaps it was only 8 million users from Reader, but they would have had a multiplier effect.

Maybe. But many of us are early adopters on Google+, because many of us are early adopters of all kinds of technologies. How effective have any of us been? I've got a ton of connections on Google+, but they're mostly other software developers or enthusiasts. All my real friends who are actually on Google+ created accounts and then apparently forgot they had them and never post. Probably because I'm the only person th…

The thing is that g+ was pretty useless for early adopters because it lacked so many features - an obvious were events, it boggled my mind that Google had Google Calendar which syncs to every Android device, but g+ had no means of creating an event for almost a year.

Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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I don't think anything needs to be integrated into Google+. They need to integrate Google+ with the rest of the web. I have a photo on Google+ that I want to send to a friend on a dumb chat client or email. How do I do that using a single URL? I don't want to send someone an interactive sharing experience, just a URL. If they decide to use the platform for further communication that's great but you shouldn't have to.

Re: A simple way Google could have avoided fucking up Google+

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could even implement that with a metaphor that is used to address a similar problem in the real world. People will say something "I'm wearing my Engineers hat now" to make it clear that they are communicating from a particular viewpoint. Hats, and indeed Masks(where you see only the headgear and not the identity behind it), would be a great addition to Google+.

Indeed. By the way, I think this has a lot to say about the "real identity policy" of google+. Do people really have a single "real" identity ?

Most normal people don't really. You have your home life, your work life, your homearea community life, your online community life, clubs/groups etc

But if your young and perhaps living an unbalanced life (everything is just about work) you might not see that.

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