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Post by aioprisan »

hackinthebochs wrote: post #91
aioprisan wrote: post #2

Weren't John Kerry and Hillary Clinton arguably equally responsible for any war that Condy supported? The voted for the funds that made it possible, how is that less responsible for the results?

Easy. Voting to give someone the authority to go to war, and actually taking the country to war on faulty or fabricated evidence are in entirely different universes. Voting for war authority was likely necessary as a bargaining chip against Iraq to get them to comply with inspections. That Bush took that as a blank check and skipped further diplomatic processes is entirely on his (and his administration's) shoulders.

What evidence do you have that there was fabricated evidence to justify the war? I'm not saying it wasn't faulty, but all the parties has closed door access to all the intelligence to make a decision. Just because we don't like the decision retroactively doesn't mean it was done on purpose, but rather due to mistakes being made. Not to say that's more comforting, just that they are different things.

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Post by steve_benjamins »

spktrthhrts wrote: post #280
pvnick wrote: post #253

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I absolutely agree with most of the opposition to Condi Rice wrt the illegal war, warrantless wiretaps, torture, etc. On the other hand, I threw a hissy fit over the opposition to Eich based on his beliefs. I'm not sure how I can oppose Rice while standing up for Eich without inconsistency. Anybody else feel conflicted and have some insight? I'm still probably goin…

There is a difference between Eich and Rice. Eich didn't torture and murder people.

You are inferring that being in a US administration while US sanctioned murder and torture occurs, means that the leader therefore murdered and tortured people.

Which puts Condi in a large group of people: nearly every member of a US administration in the last century.

Edit: Jesus. A lot of people missed the point of what I said. All I did was argue the issue is more nuanced than "[Condi Rice] tortured and murdered people"

My mistake for trying to broaden a Hacker News discussion.

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Post by microjesus »

So as a vocal, technically proficient and wealthy segment; we are now basically a lobby group. Minus third party funding, hidden agendas and three piece suits. I love this. I think that using our significant influence to form an opinion followed by digital exertion of will is simply of mirror of formal politics. Game on.

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by phireal »

cheez wrote: post #237
phireal wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been running ownCloud[0] on my server. It has Windows/Linux/Mac/Android/iOS clients and has been working very well for me as a drop in Dropbox replacement. In addition to the clients, you can use webDAV to access your files. [0] http://www.owncloud.org

How do you run owncloud? What about security and updates and all that jazz?

I have a cheap hosting account into which I've extracted the ownCloud tarball[0]. For security updates, I've subscribed to the announcements ownCloud mailing list [1] so I get an email each time there's a new version (either bugfix or major). The mailing list is very low traffic (only messages about new versions). I either follow the instructions on the site [2] for major upgrades or otherwise use the built in updater [3][4] for the minor bugfix releases.

So far, it's been pretty painless.

[0] http://owncloud.org/install/

[1] http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/announcements

[2] http://doc.owncloud.org/server/6.0/admin_manual/maintenance/...

[3] http://doc.owncloud.org/server/6.0/admin_manual/maintenance/...

[4] http://imgur.com/Z4U8ac5

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Post by talmand »

gregd wrote: post #272
talmand wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I require sources to prove your claim of "Her quest for ideological purity". I already know of the Thought Police claims so I don't require those.

I.R.A.Q.

That's not an adequate source as it implies nothing in terms of my request.

If that's all it takes then will you agree with me that the current administration and its members, present and past, have been conducting a quest for ideological purity in Afghanistan and neighboring areas? Therefore none of them should hold a job of any significance now or in the future?

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Post by jcolemorr11 »

Maybe I'm the only one who's thinking like this but...

...It's just Dropbox.

"But she access to ALL THE THINGS!"

I highly doubt Dropbox will intentionally jeopardize the meat of their business model. And again. It's just Dropbox. Not the golden keys to nuclear warfare or even a tech mover and shaker like Google.

What I want to know is why a highly educated, over qualified, former leader of the country is joining a cloud storage company. Her skill set could be leveraged so much better elsewhere. It's just...what the hell. That's what's confusing me. Not her wielding political influence to rename my file extensions to .nsa or .chevy.

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Post by mjolk »

tomasien wrote: post #52

Dropping Mozilla because Eich is anti-gay-marriage made sense to me because Mozilla is the beacon of open source. Mozilla belongs to us in a very personal way, many of us have contributed code to Firefox personally. But Condi Rice joining a completely private Dropbox as a board member - this is a non-issue. I'm as strongly anti-Bush administration and anti-war in general (especially the Iraq War - good grief) as anyo…

Eich also created JavaScript and I don't see a massive push to drop it everywhere. I think these sort of things are an outrage-economy with no serious or lasting effect.

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Post by mattzito »

mcv wrote: post #133
mattzito wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She's an independent board member. She does not have the ability, in practice, to do anything other than vote on compensation and various other corporate policies. And if all it takes to get dropbox execs to turn over data is fiscal threats from a board member who is a former government employee, then they were going to give up long before Condi shows up on the board. EDIT: and I just want to be clear. If you just do…

But why is she a board member? Who hired her? You make it sound like she was forced on Dropbox by outside forces, and they completely disagree with her. In reality, Dropbox hired her, so they do not completely disagree with her. It's not just about Rice, it's about what this says about Dropbox.

I did not mean to give the opinion that I thought Dropbox was forced to hire Condi. Nor did I intend to suggest that Dropbox agrees or disagrees with her.

Here's what I think. I think Dropbox said, "As we try to beef up our credibility with large enterprises and government agencies vs. Box.net and Google and other companies, it would be helpful if we had a board member with some street cred that we could use as a selling point with large CEOs, CIOs, and other senior tech people".

This is not an uncommon thing. At that point, you look out across the landscape of "famous people" you can put on your board. It can't be anyone who is affiliated with a competitor, and there's a lot of competitors. It has to be someone with name recognition who also is willing to be a board member and has some sort of leadership experience.

At some point, Condi's name cropped up with a few others, they met her, thought she was smart, she had the time and availability, and they brought her on.

I bet someone at some point said, "Hey, you know, are we concerned with the affiliation with GWB?" and they thought about it they said, "Hey, look, she was SECRETARY OF STATE, the first female african american one, she's a former stanford professor, she's a genius, surely people will recognize that this is different than her work with GWB"

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Post by pdpi »

[deleted] wrote: post #281
pdpi wrote: post #99

I feel that at this point we might to coin the verb "to eich", meaning "to shitstorm a company into forcing a high-ranking manager to resign".

[deleted]

Yeah, precisely. I don't like her either, but I think the appropriate reaction here is "Huh, I guess I'd better keep my eyes peeled because Dropbox might change the way it does things", rather than "OMG it's Condi Rice! Jump ship! NOW!"
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