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Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by sgt »

mscarborough wrote: post #161
jader201 wrote: post #109

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Just curious, any idea why you have so many users (10%) still on IE8 or under? I just checked my usage, and I only have 8% using IE period -- all versions. Of those, only 8% are on IE8 or under -- which is only 0.6% of all users.

We work in healthcare software, and IE7/IE8 support is mandatory, otherwise we'd be ignoring potential customers and losing current ones. Sure, they have iPads now, but healthcare IT moves really slow and we have to support that pace. It's really not as simple as stated above. It's not up to us to kill it off.

I also work in healthcare software, and we've decided on skipping IE7 and IE8 software. It's all about what you can convince your client to let go of. It makes sense to run modern and less bug ridden browsers.

If they attempt to access using older browsers, we bring up an explanation page taking them to an ever green browser of their choice.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by bradleyjg »

eli wrote: post #45
kijin wrote: post #40

As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…

> If we really want to kill IE[6-8], we need to do something more drastic, and do so with extreme prejudice. How about we all agree upon a certain date on which we intentionally break our websites and services for IE6 users? Maybe for a blog, but I'm not telling 10%+ of my customers to piss off. If the cost of supporting them outweighs the value of their business then I won't support them any more. But I would never…

I agree that I can't drop support for IE 8 or risk losing customers. On the other hand, if facebook/youtube/wikipedia were to do it, and they were the bad guys instead of me, I'd be very happy.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by awda »

voidlogic wrote: post #131
awda wrote: post #105

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I got "100%" too, but there's multiple criteria for passing: - 100% - Animation is smooth, no stuttering - The final rendering matches the provided image

It was smooth for me and matches the reference rendering. Maybe your machine is under powered (Netbook or something?)?

Xeon E3 1240 v3 (Haswell) ;-).

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by [deleted] »

jader201 wrote: post #109
eli wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If we really want to kill IE[6-8], we need to do something more drastic, and do so with extreme prejudice. How about we all agree upon a certain date on which we intentionally break our websites and services for IE6 users? Maybe for a blog, but I'm not telling 10%+ of my customers to piss off. If the cost of supporting them outweighs the value of their business then I won't support them any more. But I would never…

Just curious, any idea why you have so many users (10%) still on IE8 or under? I just checked my usage, and I only have 8% using IE period -- all versions. Of those, only 8% are on IE8 or under -- which is only 0.6% of all users.

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Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by malyk »

olegkikin wrote: post #23

Just checked the analytics on a non-IT website: IE represents 10.45% Out of that: IE6 .28% IE7 2.03% IE8 19.81% IE9 16.57% IE10 16.15% IE11 45.13%

On a general consumer website since the start of 2014:

IE: 32% - 11: 42% - 10: 16% - 9: 18.4% - 8: 20.2% - 7: 2.4% - 6: 0.07%

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by talles »

The browser we love to hate. The version we love to hate.

Interesting (see footer) how many of those site were out there.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by elwell »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #144
eli wrote: post #74

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Well, for one thing, my competition isn't just other websites. And the risk isn't just that people will find a non-blacked out site. Anyway, I'm against anything that's intentionally user-hostile as a matter of principle.

Unless you have an unlimited developer budget (and who does?) spending time and money on IE support is also user-hostile. It's just hostile toward a different set of users. That money could be spent on improving the user experience for people with good browsers, developing new services, lowering prices, or any number of other things that would directly benefit the 90% of your users who have actually entered the 21st…

gp said "intentionally"

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by atesti »

moron4hire wrote: post #97
kijin wrote: post #85

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A large part of the reason why IE6 even works anywhere outside of corporate intranets in 2014 is that we, web developers, have put in countless hours of painful and completely unnecessary work to make it work.

This is the job you signed up for. It's a site easier situation now than 15 years ago. You think supporting browsers is hard now? (I can't believe I get to be the crotchety old man in this thread). Perhaps you don't remember the NN4 vs IE4 days. NN4 didn't even have a DIV tag, it had a LAYER tag, and IE4 didn't have the LAYER tag, it had DIV. The only way to support both with all of the DHTML junk people wanted (like…

If I remember correctly, and could be nested.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by voidlogic »

awda wrote: post #173
voidlogic wrote: post #131

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It was smooth for me and matches the reference rendering. Maybe your machine is under powered (Netbook or something?)?

Xeon E3 1240 v3 (Haswell) ;-).

Intel i7 950 @ 3.07GHz, discrete nVida graphics, Ubuntu

Maybe you are using integrated graphics or your graphics driver in on the FF blacklist? Platform?

There has to be some reason why--

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by Turing_Machine »

elwell wrote: post #177
Turing_Machine wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you have an unlimited developer budget (and who does?) spending time and money on IE support is also user-hostile. It's just hostile toward a different set of users. That money could be spent on improving the user experience for people with good browsers, developing new services, lowering prices, or any number of other things that would directly benefit the 90% of your users who have actually entered the 21st…

gp said "intentionally"

Deciding to allocate the resources to IE support happens by accident, you're saying?
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