> Internet Explorer 8 was released on October 25, 2001. ... That's not right.
Yea, it was IE6 that was released when XP RTMed.
Was it? I thought XP used IE 5.5.
EDIT: My bad, it didn't.
Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003
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Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003
#32Technically security updates are released at 10am PST on Patch Tuesday. http://amirunningxp.com/ got this wrong (they used midnight instead).
It prints "You are NOT running Windows XP" on x64 XP.
Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003
#33Where I work we still have business specific apps that run only on XP and our suppliers have no plan on upgrading them (unless we fund the entire project, which they will happily resell full price to over companies). This is a clear example of what the lack of competition does
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Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003
#34Dear Microsoft, please open source WinXP.
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#35Time to switch to Linux on old PCs.
uh, no. Quite a few people on XP are there because its what they know. It also is all they need. Personal example, I would love to replace my mom's computer but she likes her version of Office which was the version we installed when she obtained her PC, which runs XP. I suspect she isn't alone in not wanting to change something that works. For many people tech is just the annoyance they have to put with to do what th…
A web browser is typically all they need. It works the same way in Linux. Turn on automatic updates and show them the web based version of Office.
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#36While I don't blame Microsoft for ending support (they have been very accomodating already), but I find it strange of them to leave so many users stranded. Especially now there's several alternatives to Windows, all requiring a similar learning curve and migration pains to that of moving to Windows 7 or 8. Personally, when people have asked me about it I usually point them to Linux Mint, using their existing computer…
It's been more than long enough already. People who haven't upgraded yet fools at this point.
They are either fools or computers are not their lives.
I know plenty users who Linux would be an ideal fit: web browser? Check. Office suite? Check. Device drivers for hardware Vista/7/8 dont have? Check. WINE layer for common XP apps? Check. Better security and malware defense? Check.
And it's free, and wouldn't require any new hardware. Getting 7 on XP hardware would be mighty uncomfortable, if possible at all.
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#37I would like to read an article about whether or not an up-to-date anti-virus is going to protect users (how and why) as a lot of IT people defend that position.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as they support an open-source browser, you can fake the user agent to make them happy.
Assuming there aren't any plugins or applets involved in the authentication process. Sweden, for example, is moving to a system where you use a smart card and USB card reader for authentication on most/all bank and government sites.
The smart-card based banking systems I am aware of don't run in the browser (not saying they couldn't have chosen to work via a plugin, they just don't seem to). Gnucash has for several smart card systems, and at least HBCI/Fints support is good [1,2].
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#39Except for our government who are paying MS an exorbitant amount of money to keep support up... http://www.zdnet.com/dutch-government-pays-millions-to-exten...
You are not alone. The UK government is doing something similar.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/07/uk-governm...
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes them specific to XP instead of just Windows?
Probably code that relies on implementation details and only works by coincidence. We had a bug in our application that only manifested on Windows 8 and later. The problem was that we were passing NULL instead of some other sentinel value (MSDN said to use a specific sentinel value). XP/Vista/7 took NULL anyway and the effect was the same as the sentinel value but in Windows 8 it did something different.
I remember Microsoft had "strict" builds of libraries (and Windows itself, IIRC) that did parameter checks. You would boot the machine with that software and run your program (more slowly) and some functions that would work on a consumer OS would generate errors on it.
Do they still do it?