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Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

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Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

#11

Time to switch to Linux on old PCs.

Actually, that's just what I did for my mother. She got emailed by her bank that using Windows XP would not be safe anymore and worriedly asked what to do: "do I have to buy a new computer?"

Since all she basically used was OpenOffice, Thunderbird and Chrome she's now running those three apps in Window Maker on Debian.

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

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post #6

Except for our government who are paying MS an exorbitant amount of money to keep support up... http://www.zdnet.com/dutch-government-pays-millions-to-exten...

Quite shocked that they've struck a multimillion dollar deal to keep support UNTIL JANUARY! Is there a reason they couldn't just move their upgrade cycle up 9 months? Obviously they knew this was coming.

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

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post #11

Time to switch to Linux on old PCs.

Actually, that's just what I did for my mother. She got emailed by her bank that using Windows XP would not be safe anymore and worriedly asked what to do: "do I have to buy a new computer?" Since all she basically used was OpenOffice, Thunderbird and Chrome she's now running those three apps in Window Maker on Debian.

>> "She got emailed by her bank that using Windows XP would not be safe anymore"

Before switching to Linux I'd recommend checking the bank supports it. I know a couple of banks in my country that use weird security systems that won't run on Linux/Mac.

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

#14

Time to switch to Linux on old PCs.

At my place, all the non-technical people rush out and buy new overpriced computer with win7. Only one of my neighbors decided to let me show him linux. The lokal store dont care, they are very happy to sell some old intel i3 prozessor, Onboard-graphics, and windows 7 for €800+

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, that's just what I did for my mother. She got emailed by her bank that using Windows XP would not be safe anymore and worriedly asked what to do: "do I have to buy a new computer?" Since all she basically used was OpenOffice, Thunderbird and Chrome she's now running those three apps in Window Maker on Debian.

>> "She got emailed by her bank that using Windows XP would not be safe anymore" Before switching to Linux I'd recommend checking the bank supports it. I know a couple of banks in my country that use weird security systems that won't run on Linux/Mac.

As long as they support an open-source browser, you can fake the user agent to make them happy.

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

#17
While I don't blame Microsoft for ending support (they have been very accomodating already), but I find it strange of them to leave so many users stranded. Especially now there's several alternatives to Windows, all requiring a similar learning curve and migration pains to that of moving to Windows 7 or 8.

Personally, when people have asked me about it I usually point them to Linux Mint, using their existing computer - not because I'm a fan of Linux, but I'd feel bad advising them to spend 100's on a new computer, when their current one works perfectly (physically).

Apart from someone who plays The Sims 2, I've had no complaints.

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "She got emailed by her bank that using Windows XP would not be safe anymore" Before switching to Linux I'd recommend checking the bank supports it. I know a couple of banks in my country that use weird security systems that won't run on Linux/Mac.

As long as they support an open-source browser, you can fake the user agent to make them happy.

Assuming there aren't any plugins or applets involved in the authentication process. Sweden, for example, is moving to a system where you use a smart card and USB card reader for authentication on most/all bank and government sites.

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

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Windows Embedded POSReady 2009, which is essentially a stripped down Windows XP SP3, will be supported with security updates until 2019. Realistically, as an individual you can't buy it but as far as I can tell you can use the evaluation version (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=1119...) for up to 120 days for free, which may be useful for VMs and the like.

Re: Microsoft ends support for Windows XP and Office 2003

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Time to switch to Linux on old PCs.

uh, no.

Quite a few people on XP are there because its what they know. It also is all they need. Personal example, I would love to replace my mom's computer but she likes her version of Office which was the version we installed when she obtained her PC, which runs XP. I suspect she isn't alone in not wanting to change something that works.

For many people tech is just the annoyance they have to put with to do what they want to do. Top that off with hundred dollar or more to upgrade and why should people do it? At least Apple got it right, FINALLY, after many years of charging for OS upgrades to not doing so.

Having helped organizations with donated computers I am not sure there is a real alternative. Linux? Really? Its hard enough sourcing decent used machines for people, I certainly am not game to loading Linux and then teaching them to use it. Perhaps if there were one install and software was available at the store... do you understand?

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