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Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio

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Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio

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VS plugin support is crucial for applications like GPU computing or Qt.

yeah i agree. I think sharp develop is coming along very well though. It will be interesting to see where they go with it. I am going to start using it for my personal open source projects, but for my commercial work for me and my teams I will stick with VS as we have MSDN licenses and support agreements in place.

Anything you find yourself missing when using it?

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VS plugin support is crucial for applications like GPU computing or Qt.

At least for the build system I've written my own MSBuild targets for handling Qt which is much nicer than the Qt Add-in creating custom build rules for each and every file. It's not perfect, but works very well here.

The (modest) debugging improvements still let me keep the add-in installed, though.

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Visual Studio is indeed very powerful, but its users have to pay the price with ever increasing complexity. There are far too many options available for a user at a given moment. Having constraints would be nice. Also, it would be nice for it to have a full-powered command-line interface for generation.

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yeah i agree. I think sharp develop is coming along very well though. It will be interesting to see where they go with it. I am going to start using it for my personal open source projects, but for my commercial work for me and my teams I will stick with VS as we have MSDN licenses and support agreements in place.

Anything you find yourself missing when using it?

default support for MSTests would be nice as this is what I have written my tests in. There is an add-on for it, but it doesn't look that good. Its not real biggy though, it wouldn't take much effort to migrate my tests over to NUnit. TFS integration would be good too. For my personal projects I upload my source to Codeplex and I use the TFS integration for this.

Saying that I could just install the TFS shell extensions and check in/out code from explorer. Its not that much of a hardship.

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The main problem with Visual Studio for me is lack of portability - now with Mono, I want to be able to use FOSS tooling to make lovely C# apps, and so when something like this sprouts up it's like ooh, perhaps it'll be cross compatible. Nope. Surely if it's built in .NET it can't be that difficult to make it run on Mono, so why yet another Windows only .NET IDE?

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Actually, SharpDevelop is not the same project as MonoDevelop: http://monodevelop.com/ MonoDevelop was forked from SharpDevelop but they diverged. Unity has MonoDevelop with Unity-specific patches and they are a little behind. Xamarin Studio is also MonoDevelop with proprietary stuff. Speaking of the "linux version", linux distributions are very far behind in the package versions provided and the folks at Xamarin are…

Weird, so the best place to develop with Mono is actually on Windows????? What's the point of making it cross platform then?

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Out of interest, how does this compare with the free editions of Visual Studio? Is there any compelling reason to use it over them? I am genuinely interested; I don't do much (any?) C# at the moment.

There is a comparison matrix between #develop and VS express here. http://community.sharpdevelop.net/blogs/mattward/articles/Vi...

Thanks. It looks like you'd benefit from installing both!

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Actually, SharpDevelop is not the same project as MonoDevelop: http://monodevelop.com/ MonoDevelop was forked from SharpDevelop but they diverged. Unity has MonoDevelop with Unity-specific patches and they are a little behind. Xamarin Studio is also MonoDevelop with proprietary stuff. Speaking of the "linux version", linux distributions are very far behind in the package versions provided and the folks at Xamarin are…

FlashDevelop was also a fork of SharpDevelop. It was a very good base and the first mono IDE that was pretty solid to use and build upon. FD is/was arguably the best as3 coding environment in pre-Unity days.

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Actually, SharpDevelop is not the same project as MonoDevelop: http://monodevelop.com/ MonoDevelop was forked from SharpDevelop but they diverged. Unity has MonoDevelop with Unity-specific patches and they are a little behind. Xamarin Studio is also MonoDevelop with proprietary stuff. Speaking of the "linux version", linux distributions are very far behind in the package versions provided and the folks at Xamarin are…

Weird, so the best place to develop with Mono is actually on Windows????? What's the point of making it cross platform then?

No, it's OS X.

Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio

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The main problem with Visual Studio for me is lack of portability - now with Mono, I want to be able to use FOSS tooling to make lovely C# apps, and so when something like this sprouts up it's like ooh, perhaps it'll be cross compatible. Nope. Surely if it's built in .NET it can't be that difficult to make it run on Mono, so why yet another Windows only .NET IDE?

It's built with WPF which mono doesn't support, I wouldn't expect to see it happen any time soon.
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