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Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Fair... It was never their core business and never skyrocketed. And I'm a heavily user of the service. Any other good alternative, maybe FOSS, except Dropbox?

ownCloud is pretty awesome. It's like a self-hosted version of Dropbox. All open source, too. https://github.com/owncloud/

Its security track isn't that awesome, though.

And same is lack of differential uploads (change a single byte in a gigabyte blob, get the whole gigabyte re-uploaded).

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Not to mention someone though it would be "User Friendly" to pop up a notification every time a file finished syncing

Dropbox does this for me on Ubuntu? I think it stems from the 'Linux' way of doing things, which is to give as much information as possible, I like it, but I can see how it's off putting to some people.

Humm I had used their client on Linux (and Windows) but I don't remember that (or I deactivated)

There's the icon overlay sure, but not a popup or anything.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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That always seemed to me a bandwagon feature, like Microsoft's SkyDrive: they saw DropBox succeeding, they figured it would be easy to emulate, and they learned otherwise when they tried it. The only way this change affects me personally is that it gives me one less thing to go in and switch off when I install a new Ubuntu system, but I'm glad they've got a pragmatic attitude toward the possibility of spreading thems…

or you could always try Fedora at this point. Ubuntu has never worked out of the box like the latest Fedora, and doesn't come with all the bloatware

Interesting - I think your prejudices are out of date. Ubuntu has been an out-of-the-box thing for me for the last two or three years, on old and new hardware, laptop and desktop. Of course I avoid Acer on principle, preferring to stick with Toshiba wherever possible, and I admit I'm not thrilled with its battery sensor support, but the old problems with dual monitors, suspend/resume, sound cards, video cards etc are a shadow of what they used to be.

Meanwhile, my own experience with the Red Hat family is with CentOS, which is either kept artificially out of date for security reasons ("bleeding edge" is well-named, generally) or else I only ever saw poorly-configured old versions. So I don't know enough to compare it, but I'm comfortable with the Debian family so I'm sticking with Ubuntu.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Did the timelines seem awfully aggressive to anyone? (June 1 service stops, July 31 all data is erased) For a service that we were suppose to be syncing our lives to, that seems like a really abrupt, customer unfriendly ramp-down. I would have expected something more like: 1. April 1 - no new accounts. 2. May 1 - can no longer add files to your existing account. 3. May - Dec - nagged/reminded constantly to pull your…

You seem to be assuming someone is using Ubuntu One.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Is there any sort of "archival background sync" service that encapsulates Amazon Glacier in the same way Dropbox encapsulates Amazon S3?

Do you really want to wait for 5 hours just to figure out you've requested a wrong folder and the photos you're looking for were shot in June, not July?

I would assume that such a service would generate metadata indexes (incl. thumbnails) that are stored on more accessible media. That is, in fact, one of the main reasons a technical person can't just use Amazon Glacier for this directly, in the same way they could use S3 directly for Dropbox's use-case.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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dpkg -S /some/file # tells you what package provides that file dpkg -L some-package # lists all the files provided by a package apt-get search # lists all package names matching

$ apt-get search foo E: Invalid operation search It's apt-cache search, and it searches full descriptions, not just package names.

My bad - I meant `aptitude search`

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Did the timelines seem awfully aggressive to anyone? (June 1 service stops, July 31 all data is erased) For a service that we were suppose to be syncing our lives to, that seems like a really abrupt, customer unfriendly ramp-down. I would have expected something more like: 1. April 1 - no new accounts. 2. May 1 - can no longer add files to your existing account. 3. May - Dec - nagged/reminded constantly to pull your…

It was barely used and very easy to replace with free services like Dropbox. I'm sure the few users it did have are savvy enough to migrate off within the relatively short time frame.

The cost of switching is generally very low and it's quite likely that most people with data in the UbuntuOne system that they wanted to keep were already using another service like DropBox simultaneously.

The biggest cost here is to the Ubuntu reputation. They stand on the promise of LTS releases: with the quick timeline for removal of support from what could be a critical piece of customer infrastructure they signal that they are willing to sacrifice relationships for convenience.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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This approach to things is what killed Ubuntu (yes, killed, not is killing). See PulseAudio, Unity, etc

I have heard that most of the trouble everyone had with PulseAudio had less to do with PulseAudio itself and more to do with terrible audio drivers that did all sorts of awful things when commanded to do relatively basic tasks by anything more complicated than Alsa.

At least one of the PulseAudio features that's enabled by default - flat volumes - also expects audio hardware to behave in ways that wasn't in any spec and in some cases probably wasn't even physically possible, and even on hardware that behaves perfectly it causes annoying volume glitches all the time.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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I must admit that, more than once, an Ubuntu upgrade killed my audio and I had to go and fix it myself. It's really painful that a distro that wants to be number 1 is so broken at times.

I don't think it's more that they push non-prod ready packages (yes, they do) but the fact that their update model doesn't easily allow them to fix bugs from upstream. The vast majority of the packages in Ubuntu (more notably in the LTS releases) are all custom patched by Ubu-devs. Rather than taking the raw package and pushing it through, they have a semi-opaque method of testing, patching, and then releasing to the…

In the case of PulseAudio, there are no stable upstream releases, so distros basically have to backport fixes themselves in order to get working audio. Red Hat (who fund most of the development) do the same. New upstream versions come with new features and can be expected to break as many things as they fix.
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