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Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#112
post #65

Maybe the NSA came for their files and they don't want to shill on their users but also got one of those security letters so they can't say anything about it. Maybe this is a heroic move for us against the US government and we'll never know. Might explain the hasty timetable too.

A business we like does something we don't like: the NSA probably caused it. Maybe companies are just capable of doing things we like and don't like and our liking them is just a cognitive bias of our historical cherry-picking of good things over bad.

Actually I'm quite ambivalent about it, I never used ubuntuOne. The problem is there is now precedent for this, and it's all secret. We can't know one way or the other about this or a ton of other stuff. It's more a comment that the NSA has thrown up a huge amount of uncertainty about a lot of things and you can now second guess so many things. And that sucks.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#113
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This approach to things is what killed Ubuntu (yes, killed, not is killing). See PulseAudio, Unity, etc

I have heard that most of the trouble everyone had with PulseAudio had less to do with PulseAudio itself and more to do with terrible audio drivers that did all sorts of awful things when commanded to do relatively basic tasks by anything more complicated than Alsa.

Not for me. ALSA was fantastic for me, I had custom routing set up with LADSPA processing, very low latency, and multi-stream mixing. Pulse doesn't do nearly as much for me.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#114
post #110

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Yes, yes, companies shouldn't do that. But I'm talking about real life, not spherical cows, and we know that companies do all that and much worse. Besides, let's say that you're a product manager who's responsible for allowing the release of that code. You know that generally all those best practices are followed, but there were a few dozens of employees touching that code, and some might not even be at the company a…

> Are you really sure that none of them put sensitive stuff in there? Are you willing to bet your job on that? If you really want an answer to that: Yes, I would. Even if there are credentials in there, I'd expect them not to be usable from the public net, but only from lan/vpn. Yes, I'd risk my job for that.

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Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#116
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, yes, companies shouldn't do that. But I'm talking about real life, not spherical cows, and we know that companies do all that and much worse. Besides, let's say that you're a product manager who's responsible for allowing the release of that code. You know that generally all those best practices are followed, but there were a few dozens of employees touching that code, and some might not even be at the company a…

> Are you really sure that none of them put sensitive stuff in there? Are you willing to bet your job on that? If you really want an answer to that: Yes, I would. Even if there are credentials in there, I'd expect them not to be usable from the public net, but only from lan/vpn. Yes, I'd risk my job for that.

Well, some people throw themselves off bridges, but I wouldn't criticize those who don't.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#117
post #39
post #24

Very awesome that they release the code. I wish all companies would open source code they don't use anymore. I mean it really doesn't cost anything pushing your old code in a github repo or something.

Troubling that Ubuntu One wasn't already open source. Can anyone explain to me why every cloud drive is using their own proprietary protocols to do the same thing? Why we have to install a different client for each vendor? That's one thing that annoys me greatly, and I'll never use Dropbox as long as its syncing tool is proprietary. Does anyone else remember when companies were proud that they were the custodians of…

Canonical provided an answer here: http://askubuntu.com/a/15295. I think the answer is interesting, and this could apply equally well to any other vendor.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#118
post #26

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If there are people who really use it heavily, then they should give them at least 6 months, I believe. Especially because without further development efforts, just maintaining the service can't be _that_ expensive.

Perhaps the logic is that if you don't use the data for a month and a half and your only copy of the data is in ubuntu one it must not be that important?

Old photos might go unused for years at a time, until someone is getting married and needs material for a wedding slideshow video.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#119

Fair... It was never their core business and never skyrocketed. And I'm a heavily user of the service. Any other good alternative, maybe FOSS, except Dropbox?

ownCloud is pretty awesome. It's like a self-hosted version of Dropbox.

All open source, too. https://github.com/owncloud/

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

#120

Fair... It was never their core business and never skyrocketed. And I'm a heavily user of the service. Any other good alternative, maybe FOSS, except Dropbox?

ownCloud is pretty awesome. It's like a self-hosted version of Dropbox. All open source, too. https://github.com/owncloud/

Thank you! going to see it it has a handly client i can install and it takes care of syncing...
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