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Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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$2 is way too high. I would say a cent per week tops.

Let's say 5W for 8 hours per day, that's 14 kWh per year. Last year I paid 17.51 eurocents per kWh, so it would be EUR 2.45 per year for me ($3.37 per year).

My bad, I thought you are talking how much could be made with the phone mining.

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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Errr.... I know that phone chargers draw some power even when the phone isn't charging, but surely it's orders of magnitude less than what they draw when the attached device is running at full capacity. Not to mention how hot the damn things could get. So it's going to cost me electricity and probably shorten the life of my phone - why would I sign up?

The app actually monitors the battery temperature (exposed on all Android phones) and throttles down when it exceeds a certain threshold. The charging circuitry on some phones (not all) actually disengages the battery from the charging circuit path once 100% AC power is reached. In other words your phone's CPU runs off of AC power (and not via the battery) once 100% charge is reached. Why you would sign up is where i…

OK, so it doesn't sound all bad :)

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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No it's not theft, it's conversion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_(law)

It's not XOR. Taking someone else's property can be both theft and conversion. Conversion is a tort, a matter of a lawsuit between parties. Theft is a crime, a matter between a citizen and the state.

The criminal equivalent of conversion is criminal conversion.

Re: Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency

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> As for electricity, lousy developers steal it as well. What's the difference if the stealthy app does what it says and is reasonable about mining? I can think of at least two differences. First, the developer profits from one but not the other. Second, the developer intended one but not the other. We evaluate the morality of accidental waste differently from that of deliberate taking for personal gain.

> We evaluate the morality of accidental waste differently from that of deliberate taking for personal gain. On the other hand, if you look at this from another perspective, inefficient software wasting power means no one gains. If the same power was being used for mining, then someone gains. If I were forced to choose between these two alternatives, I would definitely pick the latter.

Would you thus have accidents punished more severely than intentional wrongs? Is that just?
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