I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
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Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#212Man, first thing: YOU ARE NOT ALONE. You are not the first human to become addicted, nor will be the only one. There are people out there that have been in a worse situation than you and that have gone out of addictions. You should find those people, meet them and get out of drinking. Over years you made a path that you have to undo. This will take years, like it took you to create it. Your wife and kids did the righ…
>You should find those people, meet them and get out of drinking I don't mean to be offensive but... This can work, however it might not work depending on who you find. Many former addicts I personally know have replaced their drug habit with a religion habit. They are actively preaching religion at almost all times. This is probably due to the twelve step programs. If you aren't into religion or being preached at, y…
Absolutely false. I can't locate a single instance. Care to provide some page numbers?
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's good that aa uses the 'god as you understand him' which most people just use that as meaning 'something outside yourself'. its a way to have a consciousness shift and perception change away from negative self talk and see reality as it is not as you interpret it. it can be religious for some, it can just be 'the great unknown' for others. really makes no difference. just that theres something other than your own…
>it's good that aa uses the 'god as you understand him' which most people just use that as meaning 'something outside yourself'. Have you read the AA "big book?" If you have it is very clear it refers to the Judeo-Christian God with many quotes from the Bible. Its section on non-believers is completely offensive (to me). It basically says "accept god or die."
There is no section to non-believers. There is a chapter to agnostics.
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#214I turned 21 in rehab, in po-dunk Rock Creek, OH. Only after a few weeks clean, and the bitter irony of where I was in life, did I have that "moment of clarity" and have a little bit of willingness to accept that I was powerless over alcohol, and my life had become unmanageable. AA does not have a monopoly on recovery, but it has worked for me. We suffer from a spiritual malady, and our recovery is contingent upon a daily reprieve. "what am i doing today for my recovery?" I think you are posting this because you need to know, and you need to hear that everything will be ok. There is hope, I promise that you are NOT Condemned to live with active addiction. Know that you are going down a path that is not unique, so many before you, who have done worse things, and lost more things, and suffered longer have gone been in your shoes. And for them too, there is way to beat this disease. Anonymity is the greatest form of Humility. We are just people helping people, from one addict to another, I can empathize with you, I know how you feel, I have felt those pains before. Call an AA central office near where you live, send me a message if you need help
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#215I'm an escapist. Whether it's movies, youtube, video games, literally anything that is unproductive, I'll spend an inordinate time doing. Luckily, I don't drink or do any drugs, but I might as well since I'm pissing my life away. It is as if I'm stuck in neutral. However, I do make just enough money to get by. The odd thing is that I can't pinpoint why I'm this way. It wasn't always like this. I guess reason doesn't…
> [...] I don't think my post adds anything useful to this discussion [...] After talking to a friend of mine about his issue and how it reminded me of my own struggles, I tweeted the following: > "I get stuck browsing reddit and I hate myself for it". Consider that the problem may not be reddit. The problem may be you hating yourself. [0] Procrastination is often a lightning rod. Try working on the lightning part of…
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#216Today is my 180th day sober. If you asked me a year ago if I'd be dead or six months sober in a year's time, I'd have gone with dead.
Somehow I kept my current full time developer job through the past five years, but over the last decade have lost one job, bankrupted a company I co-founded and had my wife leave me. I offer the same advice as OP: Stop drinking now. Telling yourself you'll stop at some arbitrary point in the future won't work. The long term consequences are ugly; My teeth and skin are fucked up, my short term memory is cracked, and it's only been the past six months of my adult life that I've not been pissing away every paycheck. But I feel a lot smarter now than I was a year ago.
I decided I wanted to stop, and so I did the only thing I could: I moved away from the self-destructive social scene and habits I had been wallowing in. I just up and left (luckily could work in another city).
But keep in mind that post-stopping is really hard. I feel so productive and sharper now that it's ironically depressing; I know I wasted years and threw away dozens of opportunities. There are friendships where I fear I'll never be able to repair the damage that drunk me caused, but I will try. In the past month or so I've finally been able to man up and contact some of them to tell them what's happened. Some I owe money. I will fix this. Even if they still won't forgive me.
Having someone to talk to and an avenue to vent is essential. Big lifestyle changes helped me, especially getting out of the environment where I could get away with drinking like that every day and working from 11 or noon still drunk.
Other people here have mentioned the medical ramifications of quitting. It's no joke. I didn't quit until I feared dying from quitting as much as I feared dying from continuing. Maybe this is the choice you have now. I hope you choose life. After all, that's why we're here.
From my experience of quitting:
Read up at the Crippling Alcoholism subreddit. Lots of good resources on quitting. See a doctor, get evaluated and say, "I need help." If tapering helps, do it. I tapered for four days before checking in. It's different for everyone, but I had night terrors, sweats and I heard voices. This lasted a couple of weeks. Get medication for anxiety. But don't stay on it long. I'm back to having the occasional anxiety attack, but that's better than puking on my laptop once a month or so. Eat better, lose weight. Focus the addictive part of your personality on fitness goals. I've lost 2.5 stone so far. I almost feel like a person again.
Message me if you want.
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
>it's good that aa uses the 'god as you understand him' which most people just use that as meaning 'something outside yourself'. Have you read the AA "big book?" If you have it is very clear it refers to the Judeo-Christian God with many quotes from the Bible. Its section on non-believers is completely offensive (to me). It basically says "accept god or die."
> Its section on non-believers is completely offensive (to me). It basically says "accept god or die." There is no section to non-believers. There is a chapter to agnostics.
http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_bigbook_chapt4.pdf
"if that be the case, you may be suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experi- ence will conquer. To one who feels he is an atheist or agnostic such an experience seems impossible, but to continue as he is means disaster, especially if he is an alcoholic of the hopeless variety. To be doomed to an alcoholic death or to live on a spiritual basis are not always easy alter natives to face. But it isn’t so difficult. About half our original fellowship were of exactly that type. At first some of us tried to avoid the issue, hoping against hope we were not true alcoholics. But after a while we had to face the fact that we must find a spiritual basis of life —or else. Perhaps it is going to be that way with you. But cheer up, something like half of us thought we were atheists or agnostics. Our experience shows that you need not be disconcerted."
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
>it's good that aa uses the 'god as you understand him' which most people just use that as meaning 'something outside yourself'. Have you read the AA "big book?" If you have it is very clear it refers to the Judeo-Christian God with many quotes from the Bible. Its section on non-believers is completely offensive (to me). It basically says "accept god or die."
it does explicitly say god as you understand him - but i do know what you mean. its a shame that get's in the way for you tho, as there are alot of tools in there that if put to use - does provide alot of relief - alot more than drugs and alcohol provide.
Sorta. Read here: http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_tableofcnt.cfm tell me it refers to any other God.
The "as you understand him" part is somewhat a cop-out.
Only monotheism here!!
>as there are alot of tools in there that if put to use - does provide alot of relief -
For some people, yes. For other people, it is offensive garbage.
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
> [...] I don't think my post adds anything useful to this discussion [...] After talking to a friend of mine about his issue and how it reminded me of my own struggles, I tweeted the following: > "I get stuck browsing reddit and I hate myself for it". Consider that the problem may not be reddit. The problem may be you hating yourself. [0] Procrastination is often a lightning rod. Try working on the lightning part of…
I don't really get this analogy, could you maybe give an example?
Now you have two choices: A) Hate yourself for it. B) Not hate yourself for it.
Lightning struck - you were unable to continue working. There are a number of ways to deal with that, a number of lighting rods to take away the pain from the impact. Some work better than others. Some might even make more sense than others. Procrastinating may not make the most sense.
But the problem is not that you were procrastinating, the problem is that you couldn't continue to work. In procrastinating, you were coping. Your brain told you in rather strong terms: "This is currently not working out and there is no way this is going to get better if we continue staring at it. So let's do something else for a little while."
What you should not do is hate yourself for setting up a lightning rod. Because hating yourself does not increase your chances of being productive. Most of the time what it does is the exact opposite - you're simply increasing the pressure for the next time you get stuck on something. The higher the pressure, the higher the chance that you will grab a coping mechanism from the lower shelves of your arsenal.
It's a cycle of self loathing that only has one out: Stop punishing yourself for not succeeding and instead figure out ways to make it more likely to succeed. Hating yourself is easy, hating yourself for browsing reddit is particularly easy. What's hard is helping yourself to enjoy yourself.
Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem
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http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/1852/is-alcoholi... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous#Effectiven... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous#Criticism A Cochrane Review of eight studies, published between 1967 and 2005, measuring the effectiveness of AA, found "no experimental studies unequivocally demonstrated the effectiveness of AA" in treating alcoholism, based on a meta-analy…
Control groups are quite hard to come by...