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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by vivin »

JeremyMorgan wrote: post #143
negativity wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu's user interface upgrades as of 11.10 (the "unity" interface) sucked so bad that I refuse to use Ubuntu beyond verision 10.04 on desktops/laptops. 11.10 was when I switched over to Mint and never looked back, and it seems that doing so was a wise move, given the Amazon adware/spamware/spyware that Canonical saw fit to include in more recent versions. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 Even though Mi…

I too was pushed to mint after 11.10 but I'm sick of Mint now too. Not only do upgrades break it frequently, but I find small 'glitches' that end up taking up too much time tracking down. Stuff like Wifi dropping, and icons in my taskbar dissapearing, random browser crashes etc. What I did was decide to sit down and do an Arch install. Yes it takes time, and yes you have to know what you're doing. But I invested the…

I am using Mint 16 now; first time using it. Previously I was using Ubuntu. I had to switch to Mint because we got W540's at work which has a lot of new hardware that is not currently supported (well). I wasn't able to get Ubuntu working on it properly, but I have been impressed with Mint so far. The only issue right now is that it doesn't see my nvidia card and so I have to use the integrated chip instead of the discrete one. I'm hoping that Mint 17 fixes the issue.

How hard is it to get a custom system up and running from Arch? I haven't done anything like that in a few years although I've had a lot of experience with setting up custom FreeBSD systems. Is it more or less like that?

What I'm reaching for is something that "just works" and that I can work on reliably instead of having to fix obscure problems all the time. I figure once I set something up that works, I can simply create an image of it to use later.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by systematical »

negativity wrote: post #137
scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

Ubuntu's user interface upgrades as of 11.10 (the "unity" interface) sucked so bad that I refuse to use Ubuntu beyond verision 10.04 on desktops/laptops. 11.10 was when I switched over to Mint and never looked back, and it seems that doing so was a wise move, given the Amazon adware/spamware/spyware that Canonical saw fit to include in more recent versions. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 Even though Mi…

I'm liking Gnome3 a bunch. Just change display managers.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by phaemon »

butchlugrod wrote: post #95

Just installed it into a VM. No issues, very slick. The UI scaling stuff is a neat addition. Haven't tried the Server edition yet, but I imagine I'll start deploying that in six months or so. Precise Pangolin has been my bread and butter for servers. But why does it still have a "Floppy Disk" icon in the launcher? This is 2014 right? I feel like that is even more absurd than using a floppy disk icon for save buttons…

Where's the "Floppy Disk" icon on the launcher? I'm not seeing it. What's it for?

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by chez17 »

rlpb wrote: post #135
chez17 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the benefits of Linux is it's easy to customize. I like to install Ubuntu and the first thing I do is get rid of Unity. I prefer i3. I still benefit from the vast amount of repositories and the large community Ubuntu has. Unity is not necessary to benefit from Ubuntu, in fact, I think it holds Ubuntu back.

> I like to install Ubuntu and the first thing I do is get rid of Unity. If you do that, why not start from one of Xubuntu or Lubuntu instead?

Because I would just uninstall those window managers and install i3. For me, i3 is just so vastly superior to the others, there is no reason to use anything else right now.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by eitland »

smithzvk wrote: post #149
scanr wrote: post #46

I'm using 12.04 LTS quite extensively. For folk in a similar situation, how long are you thinking of waiting before switching to 14.04 LTS?

I decided to go the LTS route as well. I actually don't know when they will actually release the new version, but I assume it will be before the end of April (do they always hit their target release month?). I will be upgrading fairly early; probably at the end of April. I have a big deadline in late April and upgrading Ubuntu will be my reward/punishment. I suppose I will listen for any disgruntled users before I ma…

> (do they always hit their target release month?)

They decided to delay the spring release in 2006 to june, so it ended up as 6.06 instead of 6.04.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by Shorel »

butchlugrod wrote: post #95

Just installed it into a VM. No issues, very slick. The UI scaling stuff is a neat addition. Haven't tried the Server edition yet, but I imagine I'll start deploying that in six months or so. Precise Pangolin has been my bread and butter for servers. But why does it still have a "Floppy Disk" icon in the launcher? This is 2014 right? I feel like that is even more absurd than using a floppy disk icon for save buttons…

> But why does it still have a "Floppy Disk" icon in the launcher?

Because the BIOS of the VM reports a Floppy Disk even if you add no Floppy Disk to the list of hardware installed.

That's a bug for the VM BIOS, and a feature for Ubuntu.

You can disable it if you want: http://imgur.com/anGmzpj

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by Shorel »

retube wrote: post #64

Things I would like: 1) drop the ridiculous Unity desktop. maybe I am old and out of touch, but that was horrific . 2) Dual boot just works with UEFI/Windows 8.1 3) Supports audio and graphics hardware in common brands like Acer I have 9 installed on a samsung since 2009 and it's been an absolute pleasure, just worked. Trying to get 12 or 13 onto a modern Acer however... was a nightmare. V disappointing. I still don'…

Things I would like:

1) No more Unity trolls in Ubuntu posts. No one is making you use Unity. There are hundreds of other distributions for you to use, and only one happens to use Unity.

Pick any other Linux distribution and stop trolling.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by listic »

zanny wrote: post #86
vanderZwan wrote: post #58

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Also SSD, and 8 gigs of RAM in case that might matter. It's probably just that Lubuntu is my only reference point - it's so lightweight plain Ubuntu feels laggy in comparison. Doesn't make me any less happy with the increase in responsiveness though :)

I've been using KDE for years, but have been testing out the various 14.04 desktops to see how they are doing, and I don't know if love bloat or something but if my windows don't have animated resizing, minimizing, and maximizing the jerky behavior just seems so 90s to me.

> animated resizing

You mean, not like this? http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm249/hrenistic/ubuntu_13...

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by listic »

humanrebar wrote: post #112
ghotli wrote: post #110

Most of the articles and chatter I can find talks about the changes in 14.04 from a desktop perspective. I only run ubuntu on servers and vms. Does anyone know where I can find a good changelog as to what's changed between 12.04 LTS server and 14.04 LTS server?

http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=ubuntu If you scroll down, there are nice tables that describe various upgrades to default and otherwise important packages.

This is a nice table of most common packages, but does anyone know where I can check the version of any package on a particular version of Ubuntu?

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released

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Post by teraflop »

listic wrote: post #169
humanrebar wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=ubuntu If you scroll down, there are nice tables that describe various upgrades to default and otherwise important packages.

This is a nice table of most common packages, but does anyone know where I can check the version of any package on a particular version of Ubuntu?

http://packages.ubuntu.com/

You can browse the complete list for every supported release. Or, you can search for a particular package and set the distribution to "any" to see the latest version available in each release.

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