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Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

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That's sad, but you are not doing drugs - you can quit easily, just do it! Try to do sports or stuff like that, travel.. Seriously, alcohol is disgusting if you drink it every day. I have a hooker problem, no joke. Since we are talking about addictions here?

Alcohol is a drug. Unlike most other drugs though, alcohol withdrawal can be life-threatening and often requires hospitalization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome

Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

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drinking is just a symptom - real problem is between your ears. you drink to quiet it. until you find a replacement you are fucked. you can't just 'stop'. maybe for a few days or weeks or months, but the consequences of your drinking won't really change.

Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

#113

That's sad, but you are not doing drugs - you can quit easily, just do it! Try to do sports or stuff like that, travel.. Seriously, alcohol is disgusting if you drink it every day. I have a hooker problem, no joke. Since we are talking about addictions here?

Speaking as a recovering addict and alcoholic, trivializing alcohol addiction and the effort it takes to recover from it is both incorrect and potentially harmful.

Speaking personally, alcohol has been incredibly hard to break away from and did as much or more damage to my life than my other drugs of choice.

Speaking more scientifically, alcohol withdrawal has the potential to kill you if you don't seek help[1]. It's absolutely miserable even when you don't die, of course.

I understand that people can be addicted to all kinds of things, and that some addictions such as gambling have the potential to ruin lives just like substance abuse. However, alcohol is a powerful, absurdly common, physically addictive substance.

Quitting was necessary for me, but a phrase like "you can quit easily, just do it!" is wrong to the point that it's almost offensive.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome

Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

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No, please don't. http://skepfeeds.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/alcoholics-anonymo... There are more effective, non religious, evidence based treatments for addiction. Edited to add: Penn and Teller covered AA here: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yUG9dr6SZSY Also: http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/75-years-a...

Wow, that Penn and Teller thing is horrible. About 3:30 when they're reading from the AA book -- "I admit that I am powerless over alcohol" as Teller makes fun like it's the stupidest idea ever. A lot of the people you'll find in AA really do need to admit they're powerless over alcohol. That's no joke. But Penn and Teller readily admit they've never had a drink in their lives (it was a choice we made, a path we neve…

Being powerless over alcohol is similar to saying your powerless over a nuclear bomb going off next to you. You have the power not to pick up the first one. Once you start it sometimes can be really hard to stop, and admitting that is the key to not starting. And for most drunks theres no point in drinking one or two drinks anyway. the point is oblivion.

Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

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That's sad, but you are not doing drugs - you can quit easily, just do it! Try to do sports or stuff like that, travel.. Seriously, alcohol is disgusting if you drink it every day. I have a hooker problem, no joke. Since we are talking about addictions here?

That's sad, but you are not doing drugs serisously, this nonsense has to stop. Alcohol = drugs and whoever tells otherwise doesn't properly understand what drugs are and how they work on your mind and body. Note: I tried a lot of stuff out there, and in the end alcohol is just one of the others, sole difference being it's 'accepted', sort of (btw same is true for quite a lot of the prescription things as well) - you…

To you and others - i didn't know it's not a drug. It was my opinion, apparently wrong. Thanks for clarifications! Will do beers only on fridays then!

Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

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Religion is no better substitute to alcoholism!

+1 on this. Religion can take you down some dangerous paths too. Stick to scientific and medical methods.

it's good that aa uses the 'god as you understand him' which most people just use that as meaning 'something outside yourself'. its a way to have a consciousness shift and perception change away from negative self talk and see reality as it is not as you interpret it. it can be religious for some, it can just be 'the great unknown' for others. really makes no difference. just that theres something other than your own mind telling you the answers in your head with great authority. its really just a mind trick/hack to get out of a thought loop that leads to harm.

Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

#117

That's sad, but you are not doing drugs - you can quit easily, just do it! Try to do sports or stuff like that, travel.. Seriously, alcohol is disgusting if you drink it every day. I have a hooker problem, no joke. Since we are talking about addictions here?

Speaking as a recovering addict and alcoholic, trivializing alcohol addiction and the effort it takes to recover from it is both incorrect and potentially harmful. Speaking personally, alcohol has been incredibly hard to break away from and did as much or more damage to my life than my other drugs of choice. Speaking more scientifically, alcohol withdrawal has the potential to kill you if you don't seek help[1]. It's…

Hm, how to differ "i'm addicted and can die" and "i just like beer"? Is there obvious symptoms ?

Re: I am a successful software dev but I have a serious drinking problem

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Speaking as a recovering addict and alcoholic, trivializing alcohol addiction and the effort it takes to recover from it is both incorrect and potentially harmful. Speaking personally, alcohol has been incredibly hard to break away from and did as much or more damage to my life than my other drugs of choice. Speaking more scientifically, alcohol withdrawal has the potential to kill you if you don't seek help[1]. It's…

Hm, how to differ "i'm addicted and can die" and "i just like beer"? Is there obvious symptoms ?

I mean for someone like me it was pretty obvious. At some point you don't drink for a day and you get the shakes, or you realize that you're getting blackout drunk every weekend, or friends make comments about how much you drink, or a whole host of other things. I spent a few years living in denial, but I knew years before I stopped that I had a problem.

I don't know of a great way to answer the question "am I an addict?" that doesn't require some serious introspection. That being said, one thing I often tell people is that if they're honestly, seriously concerned that they're drinking too much and if they're asking me whether they're an alcoholic, it's something worth looking in to.

Before I abused alcohol, I abused prescription stimulants. Sometimes I'd take them and then spend hours browsing wikipedia reading about their addictive potential, or reading about how abuse of stimulants was spreading across America. It was a pretty obvious warning sign.

The reason I know I'm an addict is because once I start drinking/popping pills, I really can't stop myself. I keep drinking until I pass out, or keep binging on pills until I'm out and I haven't slept in days. AA has the saying "one [drink] is too many, and a thousand is never enough", and it certainly applies to me. Most addicts I've talked to feel the same way.

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