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I definitely won't, unless they're adding something unique. Threads are cluttered enough as it is, and the idea isn't to encourage good faith efforts, but to improve comment quality.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7446499 But, I mean, it's your button, use it how you want.
That alone reduces the positive impact of this change, and keeps the negative. Eh. Less interested in this than I was.
PG, instead of adding an endorse button, why not just use the upvote button and display the pending comment after it's been upvoted by a few 1000+ karma users? Do you want the standards for endorsement to be different than the standards for upvotes?
Yes. It should be possible to endorse something without agreeing with it.
You honestly think that's going to happen? Thanks for the chuckle Paul.
> Someone who has a pending comment will have to wait till it goes live to post another. This is kinda crazy. You can't expect 100% of our comments to be brilliant. There needs to be some timeout or something, if not, people will start creating new accounts every day.
Comments don't have to be brilliant. All they have to be is not stupid or mean.
What's wrong with the current system, by the way?
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This was all the code it took: (newsop pending () (pending-page user)) (newscache pending-page user 60 (listpage user (msec) comments* [if (and (cansee user _) _!pending) _] "pending" "Pending Comments" "pending" nil)) In this project I've really benefited from having kept the code tight.
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I think what I don't like about the e-mail route is that it removes the conversation from HN Any time I learn about a new tech or shiny thing, I search for it on HN and read as much of the back and forth as I can. A number of times I've noticed those conversations didn't happen that long ago, even on old threads. Having it there is pretty invaluable to me to get perspective on stuff. I actually think that coming up w…
HN is not a good place for conversation. (I wrote about this once and it was sorta well-received and then, case in point, everyone forgot about it the next day.) HN is primarily a news feed. There is some discussion, but it's topical and very short-lived. I only mention this because the site seems a lot better once you give up on the notion of it being conversational.
I'm specifically thinking about topical conversations or discussions, where someone asks a question in a thread, or brings up a point and someone else finds it somehow and answers the question, which can lead to a series of enlightening posts/responses.
I like the HN comments because they have people who disagree, as long as the disagreement is civil, informative, and doesn't seem to have too much ego tied up in it. I like the reality check the comments offer.
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Currently, the downvote button is only supposed to be used for unproductive comments - drivel, and the like. Of course, people use it to show their disagreement (even though that's not how it's meant to be used). No, that's wrong. Downvoting for disagreement is how downvoting is meant to be used, as pg has made clear on HN many times over the years. [I edited the previous sentence to make it less ambiguous.] The conf…
I'm a bit confused by the wording of your comment. Are you saying that downvoting "is only supposed to be used for unproductive comments" or to show agreement? You use "it," but I can't tell which statement you are referring to.
The idea that downvoting for disagreement is not legitimate is a classic instance of the canonical invasive species on HN, the Redditism.
This seems like a rather hostile change to an already hostile community. HN has never felt like a welcoming place to me, and I don't think this will help. Maybe PG prefers the community to be small, so he's trying to trim it down? Because I'm fairly certain this will drive users away, and not just the ones he wants to keep out. Please noble 1000+ers, free my humble comment from the depths of the low-karma peasants. F…
Serious question: can I delete a pending comment? And does that allow me to comment again?
> Someone who has a pending comment will have to wait till it goes live to post another. This is kinda crazy. You can't expect 100% of our comments to be brilliant. There needs to be some timeout or something, if not, people will start creating new accounts every day.
Comments don't have to be brilliant. All they have to be is not stupid or mean.