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Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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> If you're going to work 70-80 hours on a startup, basically no sane woman is going to join you (I know a couple women that'll do startups, but most seem to want some semblance of a life too.) Not true at all! Really driven, busy women usually choose choose driven, busy men. I worked full time, ran my own company, and had a full classload studying for a business degree for two years. My working breakdown was: 30-50…

Yeah, I threw in the "sane" to cover cases like that. I know of women that'll readily work 70-80 hour weeks for a startup. But I wouldn't exactly call them sane. ;-) Incidentally, I'm kinda curious whether there's any correlation between insane hours and success at the fuck-you-money level. (I know there's one as you go from high-school education to professional degree, but I think the causation is backwards: people…

> Yeah, I threw in the "sane" to cover cases like that. I know of women that'll readily work 70-80 hour weeks for a startup. But I wouldn't exactly call them sane. ;-)

I dunno man. A normal girl who likes "shopping and hanging out with her friends", who sleepwalks through a boring shitty low-paying job, who doesn't exercise and doesn't take of herself... that's sane? My girlfriend in London: Family was high in the Communist Party before the Iron Curtain fell, got in the ground floor as entrepreneurs, sent her to study architecture in London and Tokyo, won some design awards, went swimming 4x week and did yoga 3x week. Had great, brilliant friends. When not studying, working, exercising, she'd go to eclectic cafes near Old Street or we'd go to the National Gallery or British Museum or some various gardens or have tea.

She's not sane? Girls who "hang out and shop", follow American Idol really really carefully, and sleepwalk through life are sane? I guess sanity is in the eye of the beholder.

> Incidentally, I'm kinda curious whether there's any correlation between insane hours and success at the fuck-you-money level.

I think there is for a few reasons. First, a job might require 20-50 hours of "firefighting and admin" per week, where every hour over that is actually productive work. Going from a 40 hour workweek to a 50 hour workweek might actually double your productive output. Second, the more you work, actually the more you live and get done. Expression, "If you want something done, give it to a busy person." When I was hyper busy, I'd get little trivial tasks done super fast. Now that I've got more free time, it takes me way longer to do minor bullshit like get car insurance or respond to some letter or something else. When I was hyper busy, I'd only "touch stuff" once. Which cut down time and stress from tasks by a lot. Third, when you're busy working all the time, you actually spend a lot less money, because you're working all the time.

> (I know there's one as you go from high-school education to professional degree, but I think the causation is backwards: people work longer hours and get paid more because their jobs are more engaging, they don't get paid more because they work longer hours.)

That's a good point, sounds true too. I think it's more cyclical than a causation/correlation thing. Longer hours, more skills, more engagement, ability to put in longer hours, more skills, more engagement, and so on. That's my guess anyways. Good comments.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Source?

You can search for companies profile in linked in. (I actually I friends that work there, and they complain the same, no women). Linkedin. Median Age 33 years Gender Male 70% Female 30% Ps. While that counts only people that have a linkedIn profile, I would remind you Facebook has more women that guys, so I would assume that women are very familiar with social networks, and not afraid of them.

I'd think women would be way over represented in that, at least, when I was at Google, it was the recruiters and HR people flocking to LinkedIn, not the engineers. FWIW, I was on four teams at Google. I was the only woman on all of them except for Orkut, which was about half women.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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I don't know what bars you hand out in, but there are plenty of women (I prefer women to girls) in the bars/clubs I go to. You want to see beautiful women desperate to find a man, go to District (corner of Townsend and Ritch).

District is certainly a great scene for men with deep pockets and the women who love them.

Edited: District is certainly a great scene for men with deep pockets and the women over 35 who live them.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Complete garbage. I is not hard to find an attractive lady in SF for either a date or a longer term relationship. Of course, it helps to be as sexy as I am.

Seriously, though, it's not that hard. I usually only hear this complaint from guys who are looking to only date white women or suchlike Given that the city is around 50% Asian these days, one might want to consider branching out. that said, i've dated girls of every ethnicity within the last 15 years, though not since I met the outstandingly lucky * Mrs Browl.

* What? She says she's happy about it. Most of the time.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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I'd like to offer a corollary, if you are an Asian man... lots of Asian girls are only looking for white men... thusly lowering your pool. But San Francisco's women are beautiful and amazing. There are few other cities that compare. You may just need a bit more luck than elsewhere.

> lots of Asian girls are only looking for white men This usually wears off around age 25 after these girls realize that the world is slightly more complicated than TV portrays it to be. Note that I'm talking about the ones who date only white guys, not the ones who are normal and will date any attractive guy of any race.

How's TV related to Asian women's preference for white males? (I'm Dutch so I don't know what kind of stuff you broadcast)

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Source?

You can search for companies profile in linked in. (I actually I friends that work there, and they complain the same, no women). Linkedin. Median Age 33 years Gender Male 70% Female 30% Ps. While that counts only people that have a linkedIn profile, I would remind you Facebook has more women that guys, so I would assume that women are very familiar with social networks, and not afraid of them.

So, you are concluding that linked-in is more popular amongst men.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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I enjoyed the HN comments far more than the article itself...

For a while now I've been thinking I'd end up in SF or the Valley at some point over the next few years. I can't say dating ratios ever crossed my mind as a reason (not) to go. It doesn't exactly sound fun to be a woman in SF, so I guess I'd better spend more than a couple of weeks there and find out before I commit myself to meat markets and being a rarity...

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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I think it's more that most men here aren't into the same sorts of things women are into, so they self-segregate by sex. If you're going to work 70-80 hours on a startup, basically no sane woman is going to join you (I know a couple women that'll do startups, but most seem to want some semblance of a life too.) If you're going to read TechCrunch and Reddit and Digg all day, same thing. If you go to a yoga/pilates/yog…

> If you're going to work 70-80 hours on a startup, basically no sane woman is going to join you (I know a couple women that'll do startups, but most seem to want some semblance of a life too.) Not true at all! Really driven, busy women usually choose choose driven, busy men. I worked full time, ran my own company, and had a full classload studying for a business degree for two years. My working breakdown was: 30-50…

True, I've had a girlfriend stand by me now through two startups. Why? Because she has her own career and her own life. And despite being a Buddhist, thinks more about the future than the present, as do I.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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As someone who is considering moving to San Francisco, this is terrifying. Please, can a local soothe me with a rebuttal?

Rebuttal: I am a social retard, typical geek, and it was only in San Francisco that I found some success meeting women. There are lots and lots of really interesting, amazing, beautiful women in San Francisco. I dated a bunch of them.

A year ago, I returned to the Midwest, and haven't gotten a date since.

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