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Re: Moto 360

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Post by tomkarlo »

nknighthb wrote: post #362
tomkarlo wrote: post #361

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At least in the position on the right, that's not good form. You can see the intent on the top of the wrist, which means you're not in a neutral position for typing. I can't tell what's up on the left. Personally, I find my watch tends to sit above my wrist, so it's not over the palm rest at all.

I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that if I use "good form", I can't type for long before my arms fall off, like I'm aware that I never see anyone actually type in what is supposedly "good form" unless they're demonstrating what they claim you should do, but fail to do themselves. In other words: This is how reality works. And here in reality, the buckle is annoying. Speculation as to its annoyance in an alternate re…

It's worth talking to an ergo specialist, but if you can't easily keep your wrists up it often means your broader setup isn't right - your chair is too low or your keyboard is too high (common on desks based on old designs.)

I've had carpal and nerve issues in the past, so I watch this a lot... generally you can drive the better habits simply by reconfiguring the work setup.

Re: Moto 360

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Post by quadrige »

tripzilch wrote: post #368
tomkarlo wrote: post #208

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Maybe because they have simple and straightforward names that it's reasonable to expect most people will understand. Whereas if you said "my Dell Latitude 3300" most people would have no specific mental image for that. Like it or not, the simplicity of Apple's product line and naming scheme makes their product names more meaningful.

no it's the other way around. if people who own another brand of device would mention the name every other time, we'd have (or make sure to have) a good mental image for those as well. Like a William Gibson novel. I don't know what a "Dell Latitude 3300" looks like because its owners do not mention they own one when they talk about "their laptop". If they did, after a few mentions, I'd have gotten a clearer idea on t…

Yes but precisely, people are never going to mention their exact laptop name because brands like Dell choose to produce 20 variations of each laptop they create, each one harder to remember than the precedent. Apple has such a little number of portable macs (two actually: air and pro) that everyone remembers it. And they also chose a simple way to tell the difference between each iteration: the production year, as well as the screen size, which are two criterias very understandable to everyone.

It's not about what people choose to say, it's about Apple's clever naming conventions.

Re: Moto 360

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Post by VLM »

pantalaimon wrote: post #302
VLM wrote: post #197

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"A watch that expensive is purely status-indicating jewelry." For those of a certain extreme old age, say, over 30, one problem is not wearing a watch has been a display of wealth for some decades now. The signal is, "I don't wear a watch anymore, I pay an expensive cellphone contract instead". Last time I wore a watch was during the Clinton presidency. For elders like me, wearing a watch would indicate I'm too poor…

I think you can get an old feature phone for $10 these days

That was the whole point of being (well) over 30, when it was far more expensive (well, inflation adjusted, anyway).

Put another way the first cell phone contract I was aware of, was four times our current cable TV bill. Or about ten times the landline bill. So that would be quite expensive indeed.

Re: Moto 360

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Post by viame »

If you want a watch, you should buy a good Swiss watch, you don't need this cheap crap on your hand, unless you are 15 years old (which btw is a market on its own).

I don't know why people invest in these things. I don't know where this vision is coming from, but this is not a tech breakthrough. These things will not be used in the long run, period.

Do you think that Eric Migicovsky wears a freaking pebble watch? I hope not. I hope he can afford a cheap Rolex or a little more expansive IWC.

There should be a disclaimer, product for 5-16, 16-18 if your mom still changes your diapers, or for true tech lovers.

Re: Moto 360

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Post by Touche »

xmonkee wrote: post #364
factotvm wrote: post #199

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I choose Apple because I want good hardware with a *nix operating system. End of story. Show me an alternative, and you'll pique my interest. In the meantime, you should keep your ridiculous comments about conspicuous consumption to yourself.

Goddamn this. I have been a linuxer all my life but getting older somehow really makes patching drivers all the time quite unattractive. Bought my first mac this year... good decision.

You seriously have had to regularly patch drivers?

Re: Moto 360

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Post by vxNsr »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #392
vxNsr wrote: post #366

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Don't take this the wrong way but: That thing doesn't even have a respectable water-resistant rating, I was very exciting when I clicked on that link because I'm in the market for a new watch, but I need something that can take more than a couple drops of water... For comparison: My first two watches lasted 2 years each and costed me ~$10 a pop plus they had a WR rating of 300m. Sadly they looked kinda juvenile and I…

Does 30m (99ft) not translate to approx 30 meters/99 foot underwater for watches? If you want a watch to go diving in fair enough, but the way I read that it seems a fair bit more than a couple drops of water?

so it's strange but that's not quite how it works, Here's a pretty good explainantion of what those numbers actually mean: http://deloachwatchservice.com/other_stuff/water_resistancy....

Re: Moto 360

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Post by nknighthb »

tomkarlo wrote: post #401
nknighthb wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that if I use "good form", I can't type for long before my arms fall off, like I'm aware that I never see anyone actually type in what is supposedly "good form" unless they're demonstrating what they claim you should do, but fail to do themselves. In other words: This is how reality works. And here in reality, the buckle is annoying. Speculation as to its annoyance in an alternate re…

It's worth talking to an ergo specialist, but if you can't easily keep your wrists up it often means your broader setup isn't right - your chair is too low or your keyboard is too high (common on desks based on old designs.) I've had carpal and nerve issues in the past, so I watch this a lot... generally you can drive the better habits simply by reconfiguring the work setup.

Been there, done that, sent the "specialist" on her way as soon as she started rambling about my aura. My issues went away with a switch to Dvorak years ago anyway.

But all of this is quite irrelevant when one is talking about the inherently non-ergonomic use of a laptop that only happens in meetings and hotel rooms.

Re: Moto 360

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

tripzilch wrote: post #374
knowaveragejoe wrote: post #191

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The reason Apple laptops are so popular is hardly that they are a status symbol and more the fact that they're so damn comfortable to use. I agree about other Apple products, however.

People say (or said) the same about Nike shoes and Levis jeans. It's not the point . Yes they are high quality, but Wintermute wasn't commenting on that fact, the point is the brand identity of "Apple is high quality and comfortable to use", it's the first part where it says Apple Apple Apple. I am wearing a pair of very cheap no-brand jeans, they are extremely durable and comfortable (the label also ironically reads…

When I say that Apple laptops are damn comfortable, it has nothing to do with the brand. I can't speak for other people though. If Sony were making these, I'd own a Sony. But the fact of the matter is that it is Apple that has the lion's share of the laptop market because they've got a killer combination of hardware and software(being a closed platform and all). They've sunk untold amounts of money into ergonomics, the "little things", and it's paid off with a superior laptop experience. If you ever sit on a couch with a laptop all day, you'd quickly notice the difference between an Apple laptop and most OEM offerings out there. That's not to say that some OEMs aren't getting pretty close though. I have my eye on the Lenovo X1 Carbon lineup, maybe next year they'll have something superior at a better price point.

Re: Moto 360

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Post by spyder »

criswell wrote: post #56
martythemaniak wrote: post #23

I'm very impressed. When I saw the Google video, I thought the round watch was a photoshopped concept we may see in the future, but it's actually shipping in a few months. Also, is this the first mass-market device with a round screen? I'd be interested to see how the layouts work from a developer perspective. Whether relative or fixed, desktop, mobile or web, we're all so used to rectangular, grid based layouts.

A round screen both worries and excites me. I can't think of a nice way to present a website on a circular screen but it would also bother me to waste all that space putting everything into a box.

CSS will need a @media (device-shape: circle, radius: 300px) { … } ☺
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